Yet in the interim--until a classless society is realized--the state acts as a dictatorship of the proletariat. That is according to Marx.

Thanks iemanja,
I guess I needed that clarification.

How does the worker know,
how could they, any kind of commerce
is so, how we say, limited in any individualistic way.

Who controls the ship that sails, is the old age question

I wish it was an answer in itself, but it's not.

But, there is no question at all that we all are
dependent on one another's actions.

Especially when it comes to the Nation States.

There is no employer, and no one is exploited by an employer's profit motive. It's idealistic, but that's the concept.
Marx is meant to be the quintessential materialist. Unless you mean materialism as in a lust for goods. His ideal society doesn't have room for that.

good explanation

The way I usually answer is to fist ask: "what is capitalism?" Its not really just "owning the means of production".

Capitalism is M-C-M' ie the the pursuit of profit for the sake of itself above all else. It is the elevation of that above all activities.

Capitalism is NOT the quaint notion of people trading goods and services, using money as an exchange - a bunch of happy artisans working in a village. Actual usefulness is only a byproduct of that activity. The system is designed to be a never ending game of continued increase in extraction (both of human effort and natural resources) for it to survive.

I believe it (capitalism) is fundamentally unsuited in dealing with the problems ie climate change.

Socialism is "above" communism, and contains a lot of subsets that contain "Marzism" which contains different version approaches (like the Netherlands, etc).

Go to about 5:30 in the video link:

so according to Marx,
as you say, but why did
Marx posit this conclusion,

Some say humanism,
saying he didn't take into account
the material world, or the
whole congress about competition

but I think that premise misses the whole point
entirely

since I think all beings are pretty smart
I think wild animals are smart ---
even overly domesticated ones

like dogs and cats

and most humans

The slippery slope nonsense is clearly all propaganda which is something political conservative party leaders that imperative to disseminate.
SS or medicare doesn't lead to complete government control any more than public school or creation of the NIH.

Assisting people and protecting the environment in many ways helps to sustain economic progress.
The government can create jobs and has without controlling all means of production.