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TBF

(34,318 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:53 AM Mar 2016

Fascism. Can it Happen Here?

(TBF Note - Some of us would argue that it has been ongoing. Neoliberalism=inverted totalitarianism. Trump is only putting a face on it and bringing it into the open.)

“In the election of 1924, [Hitler] did very poorly, for a marginal party. Then you have the Depression in 1929 and 1930. ... There’s this huge economic crisis with tens of millions unemployed, and there’s also a governmental deadlock. You cannot get any legislation passed.” Paxton continued, “The German Weimar Republic really ceased to function as a republic in 1930, because nothing could be passed. ... So, between 1930 and 1933, President von Hindenburg ruled by decree. And the political elites are desperate to get out of that situation. And here’s Hitler, who has more votes by this time than anybody else. He’s up to 37 percent. He never gets a majority, but he’s up to 37 percent. And they want to bring that into their tent and get a solid mass backing. And so ... they bring him in.”


Fascism: Can It Happen Here?
Posted on Mar 16, 2016
By Amy Goodman and Denis Moynihan

“When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross,” goes a saying that is widely attributed to the first American to win the Nobel Prize for Literature, Sinclair Lewis. In 1935, Lewis wrote a novel called “It Can’t Happen Here,” positing fascism’s rise in the United States. We were taught that fascism was defeated in 1945, with the surrender of Germany and Japan in World War II. Yet the long shadows of that dark era are falling on the presidential campaign trail this year, with eruptions of violence, oaths of loyalty complete with Nazi salutes and, presiding over it all, Republican front-runner Donald Trump.

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it,” the 20th-century philosopher George Santayana wrote. He lived in Europe through both world wars, and witnessed Italian fascism firsthand. Fascism was the violent political movement founded by Benito Mussolini, who took control of Italy in 1922. Mussolini had his political opponents beaten, jailed, tortured and killed, and ruled with an iron fist until he was deposed as Italy surrendered to the Allies in 1943. He was known as “Il Duce,” or “The Leader,” and provided early support to the nascent Nazi movement in Germany as Adolf Hitler rose to power in the 1930s.

Why is this relevant today? It was Donald Trump who recently retweeted one of Mussolini’s quotes: “It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep.” When NBC confronted Trump for retweeting the fascist’s words, he replied, “Sure, it’s OK to know it’s Mussolini. Look, Mussolini was Mussolini. ... It’s a very good quote, it’s a very interesting quote.”

If only the fascist comparisons were limited to his tweets ...

More here: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/fascism_can_it_happen_here_20160316z

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Fascism. Can it Happen Here? (Original Post) TBF Mar 2016 OP
I think it already is 2naSalit Mar 2016 #1
Exactly ... KPN Mar 2016 #2
To a pretty fair degree it did happen rock Mar 2016 #3
I can't disagree - TBF Mar 2016 #4
ya mean this one? w0nderer Mar 2016 #5

2naSalit

(92,732 posts)
1. I think it already is
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:36 AM
Mar 2016

but like the frog in the slow to boil pot, we just haven't paid that much attention and we won't until we each individually hit that brick wall.

rock

(13,218 posts)
3. To a pretty fair degree it did happen
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:18 AM
Mar 2016

Under George W. Had a Republican (ptui!) followed W, we'd probably have it 100% by now.

TBF

(34,318 posts)
4. I can't disagree -
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:00 PM
Mar 2016

but I think it has been going on longer than that. Eisenhower warned us ...

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
5. ya mean this one?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
(well worth a read..actually well worth downloading)

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heh why would i care *waves hands dismissively* ooooh wrestling on tv....and twinkies...and burgers!!!!! shiny!
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except in many people, that wouldn't be sarcasm, it would be their real reaction sadly
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