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Eugene

(62,686 posts)
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:12 AM Jan 2022

Rust shooting: armourer sues guns and ammunition supplier

Source: The Guardian

Rust shooting: armourer sues guns and ammunition supplier

The woman who managed weapons on the film set where a gun carried by Alec Baldwin was accidentally discharged, killing Halyna Hutchins, has said boxes of dummy rounds contained live bullets

Catherine Shoard
@catherineshoard
Thu 13 Jan 2022 11.40 GMT

Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, who managed weapons and ammunition on the set of Rust, the western which saw live ammunition from the gun carried by lead actor and producer Alec Baldwin accidentally hit the film’s cinematographer and director, has filed a lawsuit against the supplier of guns and bullets.

The lawsuit, against Seth Kenney and his company, PDQ Arm & Prop, alleges that boxes marked as inert dummy rounds actually included live bullets.

“Hannah and the entire Rust movie crew relied on the defendants’ misrepresentation that they provided only dummy ammunition,” according to documents in the suit filed in state court in New Mexico.

It was on 21 October that the gun carried by Baldwin discharged during rehearsals for a scene. The bullet killed the film’s cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded its director, Joel Souza.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jan/13/rust-shooting-armourer-sues-guns-and-ammunition-supplier

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Rust shooting: armourer sues guns and ammunition supplier (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2022 OP
The armorer is in deep legal trouble. COL Mustard Jan 2022 #1
What? Hannah remembered the chamber that needed cleaned removed the round doc03 Jan 2022 #2
There is a visible difference between a live round and a blank mitch96 Jan 2022 #3
Live and blanks look very different. Impossible not to notice it if you look. Irish_Dem Jan 2022 #4

COL Mustard

(6,911 posts)
1. The armorer is in deep legal trouble.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:37 AM
Jan 2022

Even if the boxes somehow contained real ammo, it is/was her job, her responsibility, to ensure that the real bullets didn't get loaded in the gun.

Even if there are no criminal charges, there will be civil trials and she's going to be involved with this for a very long time.

doc03

(36,768 posts)
2. What? Hannah remembered the chamber that needed cleaned removed the round
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 08:45 AM
Jan 2022

and cleaned the chamber and took another round shook it then put it in the pistol. I wonder how you would remember
which chamber in a six shooter was dirty and why only one. She shook it to check if it was a blank, but it wasn't. A chamber on the cylinder was dirty and the barrel wasn't. She couldn't tell it was live round by the weight of it alone. Now she blames the ammo supplier for her stupidity.

mitch96

(14,691 posts)
3. There is a visible difference between a live round and a blank
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 09:16 AM
Jan 2022

Notice the crimp on the end of the cartridge.. It's a blank

So Even if the gun/ammo supplier did mix live and blank rounds in the box, you can visibly tell the difference, if you pay attention...uff
I would assume (I know big mistake) a competent armorer would know the difference and check.. If you look close the blank round even says "blank" on the end..



A regular 45 long cold cartridge does not have this.. it's smooth


Irish_Dem

(58,293 posts)
4. Live and blanks look very different. Impossible not to notice it if you look.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jan 2022

Isn't she the one who loads the guns?

How in the world did she not notice she was loading live ammunition?

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