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Demovictory9

(33,752 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 01:19 AM Apr 2022

Concern about Viola Davis' portrayal of M. Obama in the "first lady" with regard to lip mimicking

Viola Davis is a great great actress. A clipped from the first episode is going viral
Too much lip pursing




video of Michelle speaking for comparison


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Concern about Viola Davis' portrayal of M. Obama in the "first lady" with regard to lip mimicking (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2022 OP
Thanks for the info; confirms my decision to skip that show. elleng Apr 2022 #1
"I'm concerned" about the amount of "lip movement" by an actress? Auggie Apr 2022 #2
Did you watch the clip? It is too much. tblue37 Apr 2022 #3
You don't like it, I take it ... Auggie Apr 2022 #12
My initial thought as well. But watch it. I's almost to the point of caricature. It is too much. n/t ms liberty Apr 2022 #4
Yes..and its not even accurate caricature. M.O. doesnt move her lips that way Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #5
Exactly... I suspect Viola was directed to do this excessively. I wish she had not complied. hlthe2b Apr 2022 #7
I watched the first episode in total. They have a point. Love Viola, but someone apparently directed hlthe2b Apr 2022 #6
Really? Did they emphasize that it was due to unprecedented threats to their lives or ms liberty Apr 2022 #8
I gave the context. It was still very jarring. hlthe2b Apr 2022 #9
Yea, then I won't even watch it...my bp doesn't need it! Thx! ms liberty Apr 2022 #10
No one forced Viola. In an interview she said she intentionally studied Michelle. Auggie Apr 2022 #11
Then she made some shockingly bad choices. She nailed Michelle's walk and hand/arm mannerisms hlthe2b Apr 2022 #13
We can't cancel an actor for giving a performance in good faith Auggie Apr 2022 #14
Who the hell said anything about canceling her or anyone? DON'T put words in my mouth/post. hlthe2b Apr 2022 #15

ms liberty

(9,825 posts)
4. My initial thought as well. But watch it. I's almost to the point of caricature. It is too much. n/t
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 05:05 AM
Apr 2022

Demovictory9

(33,752 posts)
5. Yes..and its not even accurate caricature. M.O. doesnt move her lips that way
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 05:25 AM
Apr 2022

Her high cheek bones jut her mouth out a bit but her lips dont do what Viola was.doing

hlthe2b

(106,329 posts)
6. I watched the first episode in total. They have a point. Love Viola, but someone apparently directed
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 05:52 AM
Apr 2022

her to overly accentuate the lip pursing. It is not merely distracting. I was also sad to see (even if true) that they had her using the "N" word (and the slang word for a raccoon) to Obama to discuss why they were bombarded with early secret service detail as a Presidential Candidate when the others were not. It may not play out in the future episodes, but my initial impression is that this may turn out to be more of a "hit job" on the Obamas.

The portrayals of Eleanor Roosevelt and Betty Ford, by contrast, don't seem as jarring despite them not shying away from Ford's drinking issues.



ms liberty

(9,825 posts)
8. Really? Did they emphasize that it was due to unprecedented threats to their lives or
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 06:18 AM
Apr 2022

Were they implying it was a different reason?

hlthe2b

(106,329 posts)
13. Then she made some shockingly bad choices. She nailed Michelle's walk and hand/arm mannerisms
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 08:53 AM
Apr 2022

but she so overdid the pursed lips that I would have thought she would have known better--given the centuries of horrendous racist caricature.

I think she will come to regret making that so much the focus of her portrayal. A little would have gone a long way.

Auggie

(31,798 posts)
14. We can't cancel an actor for giving a performance in good faith
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 09:12 AM
Apr 2022

It's an artistic interpretation. You can dislike it, but equating it to "centuries of horrendous racist caricature" is unfair to Viola Davis.

We really should should critical of the plot which I understand takes very dramatic liberties with the Obama's storyline. I haven't seen the series yet but I will watch it.

I will cancel that absurdly vague Tweet, "I'm concerned." That's taking the coward's way out.

hlthe2b

(106,329 posts)
15. Who the hell said anything about canceling her or anyone? DON'T put words in my mouth/post.
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 09:14 AM
Apr 2022

I gave her kudos for much of her portrayal, but not the overly exaggerated mouth pursing. Even the best actors make mistakes in their portrayals at times.

Given I appear to be the ONLY one on this thread who has actually seen the first episode, I find your comments toward me and my take really inappropriate. I actually DID discuss the way in which the series has thus far presented the Obamas in a post upstream. It is not merely Viola's exaggerated mouth movements that is problematic. The series may get past this and improve. There are 8 episodes, after all. But, thus far., I find it problematic.

And yes, the constantly exaggerated lip-pursing is such a caricature of Michelle Obama as to be offensive and not at all representative of her articulate speech and beauty. It is the kind of focus that racists would have adopted in decades/centuries past. I'm sure (quite obviously) that was not Viola's intent, but it was OTT. I hope it gets toned
down.

No more accusations, though. Once you have actually seen it, as I have, we can revisit your impressions. YMMV.

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