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16 Shocking Allegations In Scientology Documentary 'Going Clear' (Original Post) NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 OP
Seems like the propaganda movie worked very well. ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #1
Huh? You think the HBO movie is propaganda? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #2
There are people who have had very bad expereinces with Islam. ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #3
Some of the individuals do, sure. But this is a cult and a very very very dangerous one NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #4
Like I said, the propaganda worked very well. ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #5
Hate MY ASS, what I dislike is what is now KNOWN FACTS about this CULT NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #6
You said you hate TC in your OP. You used that exact word. ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #7
Yes, I hate Tom Cruise for being what I now know is a complete and total fucking asshole NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #8
Are you a scientologist? truebrit71 Mar 2015 #10
Why do you ask? nt ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #12
Because you seem to be very defensive about it... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #15
I am not a scientologist. ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #16
So Alex Gibney's documentary on the child abuse by the catholic church would be propaganda... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #17
Good propaganda will show "both" sides of an issue. ZombieHorde Apr 2015 #18
Except scientology isn't a religion it's a scam and a cult... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #19
Scientology is a TERRIBLE organization and this has been known for YEARS. Hissyspit Mar 2015 #9
Are you saying Islam is terrible? ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #13
All religion pretty much sucks. Hissyspit Mar 2015 #14
Didn't look like propaganda to me.... truebrit71 Mar 2015 #11

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
3. There are people who have had very bad expereinces with Islam.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:01 PM
Mar 2015

Should we all hate them?

Most Scientologists live peaceful, productive lives.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
5. Like I said, the propaganda worked very well.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:07 PM
Mar 2015

Hate whomever you please, but lots of religious groups have participated in death and destruction on a far grander scale than scientology.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
6. Hate MY ASS, what I dislike is what is now KNOWN FACTS about this CULT
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:08 PM
Mar 2015

take your hate accusation elsewhere, I wont tolerate that bullshit

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
7. You said you hate TC in your OP. You used that exact word.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:16 PM
Mar 2015

There are known facts about Islam that are much worse than the known facts about Scientology, but the majority of people in both of those faiths are peaceful and are just trying to get through their lives.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
8. Yes, I hate Tom Cruise for being what I now know is a complete and total fucking asshole
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:18 PM
Mar 2015

he deserves to be hated

and if everybody knew this about him, they would stop seeing his movies as I will

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
15. Because you seem to be very defensive about it...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:31 AM
Mar 2015

...calling the documentary 'propaganda' was one...so it made me think that perhaps you were so defensive about it because you were a scientologist. Is that not correct?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
16. I am not a scientologist.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 02:38 PM
Mar 2015

I do like consistency. If I say Muslims are dangerous terrorists and they should be shut down I would rightfully be called for broad brushing the many because of the behavior of the few. If I said the RCC wasn't a church but rather a pedophile protection ring I would be rightly called out for broad brushing the many because the behavior of the few.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
17. So Alex Gibney's documentary on the child abuse by the catholic church would be propaganda...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 03:36 PM
Mar 2015

...as well by that measure, yes?

Propaganda suggests that only one, favourable side of an issue is being presented. That didn't appear to be the case with this documentary, so I am curious as to why you chose that word?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
18. Good propaganda will show "both" sides of an issue.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:03 AM
Apr 2015

It's too obvious otherwise. It won't be fair, but it will look fair to most people. Take a look at the results of this film. The majority of us are against broad brush attacks against religious minorities, but an exception is being made. The arguments defending other religious minorities in the US are also true of Scientology. The majority are just people trying to live their lives, and they use religion to help them get through their daily struggles.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
19. Except scientology isn't a religion it's a scam and a cult...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:50 PM
Apr 2015

...it's no different than other cults that call themselves religion based on wild-ass stories, it just happens to be the newest, and therefore the easiest to debunk.

This film DID show both sides of the story, and showed, quite clearly that it is a cult...


Hissyspit

(45,790 posts)
9. Scientology is a TERRIBLE organization and this has been known for YEARS.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 05:47 PM
Mar 2015

Just because there are other terrible organizations doesnt mean it's not a terrible organization.

Hissyspit

(45,790 posts)
14. All religion pretty much sucks.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 10:27 PM
Mar 2015

But not all adherents to particular religions do deliberately unethical and abhorrent things. The documentary looks like journalism, not propaganda, to me. Just because they they chose Scientology to investigate instead of Islam (not exactly analogous subjects), doesn't make it propaganda.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
11. Didn't look like propaganda to me....
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 09:18 PM
Mar 2015

...looked like a long overdue expose into a deeply disturbed cult that needs to be shut down.

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