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ck4829

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Sat Jun 11, 2022, 08:54 AM Jun 2022

Adam Conover of 'Adam Ruins Everything': Most of the numbers on your medical bills are made up

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Yet another TikTok video calling out the notoriously expensive U.S. healthcare system is going viral on social media. Shared by Adam Conover, a comedian and former host of the informative program "Adam Ruins Everything," in response to another TikTok about how medical bills mysteriously shrink when the patient asks for an itemized receipt, the one-minute clip explains why this suspicious phenomenon happens. The original video was posted by a TikTok user named Tre'jon Wilson and it shows him drinking something while the text overlay ponders whether the American healthcare system is a scam.

"Tell me why my hospital bill went from $4,000 to $950 all because I asked for a receipt and a list of everything I was being charged for," the overlay text reads. "They lowered my bill by 76%. Is it me or our health care system is a scam?" Conover took it upon himself to answer this question by stitching the original video and explaining why so many hospital bills are massive and why the charges seem to vanish when patients challenge them with the hospitals. "It's because the numbers on every hospital or doctor bill are straight-up fake and made up," Conover says in the video.

"If you have insurance, your hospital has to negotiate with the insurance company for the price of the services," he continues. "So they set these super high ridiculous numbers as a starting point for that negotiation. The insurance company says, 'bulls**t, we're paying you a third of that.' They haggle a bit and decide on a number.'" Conover goes on to explain why this system has the power to ruin lives. "Here's the f**ked up part. If you don't have insurance, the hospital still put that original, ridiculously high, just for negotiation number on your bill," he says in the video.

"So you could easily end up paying three, five, even ten times what the procedure actually costs," he notes. "The next time you get a medical bill, make sure you negotiate. There are even non-profits called medical billing advocates that will help you negotiate." Conover ends the video by directing people to an episode of "Adam Ruins Everything" titled "The Real Reason Hospitals Are So Expensive," in which he goes into detail about the questionable practices behind medical billing. His TikTok video touched a raw nerve for those already dissatisfied with the American healthcare system and many confirmed that negotiating the ridiculous amounts mentioned in hospital bills has brought them down to a much lower number.

https://scoop.upworthy.com/tiktok-user-explain-why-hospital-bills-shrink-when-asked-itemized-receipt

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Adam Conover of 'Adam Ruins Everything': Most of the numbers on your medical bills are made up (Original Post) ck4829 Jun 2022 OP
I had a heart attack with no insurance Claire Oh Nette Jun 2022 #1

Claire Oh Nette

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1. I had a heart attack with no insurance
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 08:58 AM
Jun 2022

The year my husband moved to medicare TFG changed the subsidies and I no longer qualified for help with ACA.

$275,000 later, we dealt with 13 separate entities, from th eambulance to the local hospital ER to the big heart center's many specialists.

We paid about 1/4 of that bill over time. Except for the ambulance services, every group offered deep cash discounts, and the hospitals have programs to help people with their bills. Fun fact with medical bills: pay $5 a month forever, and they can't come after you.

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