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Related: About this forum5 Punk Rockers Explain Why the Alt-Right's 'Punk Movement' is Garbage...
By Michael Tedder
March 15, 2017
First, the alt-right stole Pepe the frog from cartoonist Matt Furie. Then, they stole enjoying milk from the calcium-deficient. Now, theyre trying to steal punk. Members of the alt-right have of late made the argument that conservatism is the new punk and that gadflies like Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopoulos are the modern day truth-telling equivalents of the Sex Pistols and the Clash, pushing back against social justice warriors and political correctness culture. In their eyes, their old, retrograde ideaswhich inevitably manifest as fear and outrage at attempts to curb white male privilegehave suddenly become avant-garde because of
safe spaces or something.
As if.
Since its impossible to physically punch this loathsome idea in the face, Playboy reached out to some of our favorite young punks and some members of the old guard to talk about what punk really means. Many of our contributors pointed out that even though as a cultural movement it has always had its flaws and problems with representations, punk is still a place where people threatened by the rights crusade can find strength, safety and community.
Alice Bag, who has actually done the work of being a punk rock star, recently said via Facebook: Punk has been portrayed as music by and for angry white males, but in its inception, it was a rebellion against all rock cliches. Gender, ethnic, sexual and class taboos were all challenged by our early punk community and that is a story which is not very often told. People of color, queer folk, womenall were present from the very beginning of Punk.
more at link:http://www.playboy.com/articles/punk-rockers-on-the-alt-right?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Keywee&utm_content=non-bunnies&kwp_0=365756
In the 70's Punk was defined as Leaderless, Lordless and Loud...doesn't jive with alt-right, at all.
I just simply find the conservatives..horrid, useless people...
Tikki
kydo
(2,679 posts)Some how I think the only thing that really the racist/white/new punk and punk rock in general might have semi in common is anger. Other then that the two couldn't be further apart. Besides, what was punk in the 70's and 80's is now labeled alternative rock. I love alternative rock.
Tikki
(14,796 posts)Alternative and Indie are certainly legit use for any band who is or wants that label.
There are just so much awesome new bands and singers out there now, but posuers are still
posuers and to co opt a real social movement makes them losers.
Tikki
kysrsoze
(6,150 posts)N/T
Iggo
(48,321 posts)ADX
(1,622 posts)...that doesn't include bands like Black Flag, The Misfits, and especially Bad Brains, isn't a real discussion.
Tikki
Koch Ebola
(831 posts)We were always the Ult.Left way back when it wasn't cool to be associated with the so-called left. This was during the Reagan era. Matter of fact our band was involved with an international organization called Rock Against racism. Back then we had our reactionary punks such as Skin Heads and Oi hardcore. Below is evidence of our songs. This was rebel music for rebels
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvLIwTN57EwH_ntC-mnQ1wg/videos
Tikki
(14,796 posts)Your band had a really great sound.
Tikki