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TomSlick

(11,885 posts)
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 09:45 PM Apr 2022

I've had enough of the Infiniti ad with the kid orchestra butchering "Sprach Zarathustra."

Not only is it painful to hear but it is insulting to student musicians.

No kid's orchestra director would make the attempt. Kids that age should be performing "Bill Grogan's Goat." The message seems to be that student musicians are really bad. I was unlikely to ever buy an Infiniti, I'm not into conspicuous consumption, but there is no risk now.

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I've had enough of the Infiniti ad with the kid orchestra butchering "Sprach Zarathustra." (Original Post) TomSlick Apr 2022 OP
A good one but way over used.. that's what they do Deuxcents Apr 2022 #1
It's so horrible - an ad that makes one want nothing to do with the product Pachamama Apr 2022 #2
1-800-cars4kids lapfog_1 Apr 2022 #3
I'm in the minority and think it's funny, especially since she's... TreasonousBastard Apr 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Owl Apr 2022 #5
I don't watch TV, but totally agree. usonian Apr 2022 #6
They didnt get the chords right either. Chipper Chat Apr 2022 #13
Most commercials are like that. FoxNewsSucks Apr 2022 #7
well...it just came on while watching Chopped... bahboo Apr 2022 #8
It had to be professional musicians working to sound that bad. TomSlick Apr 2022 #15
agree...kind of like "Forward March" by Pat Metheny... bahboo Apr 2022 #16
I've not heard this before. TomSlick Apr 2022 #17
That commercial sucks I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Apr 2022 #10
That and the "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year" rsdsharp Apr 2022 #11
Go on their Twitter acct. Lots of complaints there. Make one too. vanlassie Apr 2022 #14
Yes, I've hated that since the first time I saw it relayerbob Apr 2022 #12
Pretty Much Agree! ProfessorGAC Apr 2022 #18
Young musicians are not expected to be good. TomSlick Apr 2022 #19
A Reminder ProfessorGAC Apr 2022 #20
I was agreeing with you. TomSlick Apr 2022 #21
instant mute greyl Apr 2022 #22

Pachamama

(17,013 posts)
2. It's so horrible - an ad that makes one want nothing to do with the product
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 09:52 PM
Apr 2022

Every time it comes on, it’s like nails on a chalkboard and I cringe

lapfog_1

(30,143 posts)
3. 1-800-cars4kids
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 10:07 PM
Apr 2022

I turn off the advertisement... both of them... whenever they are on.

atonal nightmare

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. I'm in the minority and think it's funny, especially since she's...
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 10:10 PM
Apr 2022

taking her kid home from rehearsal.

But, if you want to hear bad:



(Portsmouth Sinfonia swaps instruments)

Response to TomSlick (Original post)

usonian

(13,772 posts)
6. I don't watch TV, but totally agree.
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 10:27 PM
Apr 2022

Classical music gets so butchered. Even classical music stations do it, never mind the deviants who create ads.

I don't want to even think of the travesties.

The exception I make (for myself) is to try to play transcriptions of pieces for piano. In fact, a whole lot of pieces were worked out on a piano by their composers.

Oh, the "cartoon" exception. How many of us first learned of classical works from Bugs and friends? At least, I don't think the music was doctored (much)

Strauss was an amazing composer. For the bombast of Zarathustra and the ferocity of Elektra, he wrote lovely Viennese style pieces, and wrote heavenly music for the female voice. And then there's the Alpine Symphony, complete with thunderstorm sound effects.

Saturday's Met opera will be Elektra, and the Sacramento State late night opera the same day (capradio.org, streaming online if you aren't in FM range) will be Rosenkavalier. The latter has an enormous range of emotions, from the crude Baron Ochs, to the three ring circus of his tormentors, to the out of this world duet of Sophie and the Marschalin. All in one opera.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,787 posts)
7. Most commercials are like that.
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 10:34 PM
Apr 2022

Once or twice might be OK, but 5 times an hour. . .

It's why I rarely watch TV live.

bahboo

(16,953 posts)
8. well...it just came on while watching Chopped...
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 10:45 PM
Apr 2022

it was mercifully short, perhaps edited. Yep, music educator here, and it shows the kids off in a bad way. A decent middle school group could easily handle that excerpt.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,934 posts)
9. That commercial sucks
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 10:47 PM
Apr 2022

Hurts my ears and everything you said.
Fuck you infinity.

There needs to be limits on ads,like how many an hour,volume limits and it must be tolerable to hear/see.

Response to TomSlick (Original post)

rsdsharp

(10,115 posts)
11. That and the "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year"
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 10:58 PM
Apr 2022

Claritin ad. I love that song — at Christmas — and they have effectively killed it for me.

relayerbob

(7,019 posts)
12. Yes, I've hated that since the first time I saw it
Tue Apr 12, 2022, 11:14 PM
Apr 2022

And it gets worse with each airing. If any ad were to affect my decision on buying a car, that one certainly would, and would push me away from Infiniti. That ad is annoying on so many levels.

ProfessorGAC

(69,854 posts)
18. Pretty Much Agree!
Thu Apr 14, 2022, 07:18 PM
Apr 2022

Since I started subbing I've met several band directors, Jr Hi & HS.
Most won't embarrass themselves or the kids.. They'll find more suitable material.
Those junior high band/orchestra teachers have the patience of Gandhi! I've heard a dozen of them and......they're not good. The kids who can actually play stick out like a panther in the snow!
I've heard a couple HS bands, though, that were really good! Big schools though, so they're picking all the better & best.
So, I agree that directors wouldn't do that to the kids, but don't agree on how good a grade school orchestra is likely to be. I think good ones are rare, as I'm 0-12 in that regard.

TomSlick

(11,885 posts)
19. Young musicians are not expected to be good.
Thu Apr 14, 2022, 11:06 PM
Apr 2022

All that is expected is that they learn and not be embarrassed or discouraged.

Student musicians of the age shown in the ad should be striving for a characteristic sound on their instrument, being in tune with the rest of the ensemble, and learning to balance and blend. They would be playing Bach chorales for educational purposes and "Bill Grogan's Goat" for fun.

The ad is an insult to student musicians and their teachers.

ProfessorGAC

(69,854 posts)
20. A Reminder
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 12:37 PM
Apr 2022

I was agreeing with you, except on one small point.
Then you agreed with that.
Not sure what you're arguing.

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