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SupportSanity

(1,154 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 02:35 PM Aug 2024

Journey keyboardist asks judge to resolve deadlock with band's lead guitarist

The fight is keyboardist Journey keyboardist Jonathan Cain vs band founder and lead guitarist Neal Schon.
It's about a company that they both co-own. The story is told mostly from Cain's point of view, and it looks like typical music business squabbling until the very last paragraph:

-snip most of the article until the last paragraph-

The two band members have been at odds for several years. In 2022, for example, Schon sent a cease-and-desist letter after Cain performed the 1981 hit "Don’t Stop Believin’” at former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate. Schon said Cain, whose wife was a spiritual adviser to Trump, had no right to use the Journey brand for politics. Cain countered that Schon was the one damaging the band’s brand through his bullying tactics and reckless spending.

(the bold is mine)

link to article:
https://news.yahoo.com/news/entertainment/journey-keyboardist-asks-judge-resolve-214451744.html

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Journey keyboardist asks judge to resolve deadlock with band's lead guitarist (Original Post) SupportSanity Aug 2024 OP
Cain is married to Paula White VMA131Marine Aug 2024 #1
Less like Spiritual Adviser, more like Satans little helper Clouds Passing Aug 2024 #2
Yeh, but what does she REALLY think?!! SupportSanity Aug 2024 #4
I think she's calling for union workers to strike and strike and strike 😆 Clouds Passing Aug 2024 #5
All I can say is HOLY CRAP!!!!!! Wow!!!!! SupportSanity Aug 2024 #3
she's the most ruthless of these people in sucking money out of people PedroXimenez Aug 2024 #7
Cain seems to be a cursed name (for killing Abel maybe) Clouds Passing Aug 2024 #6
Families ripped apart, friendships ripped apart, now arena rock bands ripped apart. Shermann Aug 2024 #8
Gregg Rolie was the far superior keyboardist in Journey! Crowman2009 Aug 2024 #9
Everybody's Everything SupportSanity Aug 2024 #10
Far Better ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #11
Another vote for Gregg here... litwoken Nov 2 #12
The audience seemed more mellow and chilled out during the Gregg Rollie days of Journey. Crowman2009 Nov 4 #13

SupportSanity

(1,154 posts)
3. All I can say is HOLY CRAP!!!!!! Wow!!!!!
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:05 PM
Aug 2024

As soon as I saw Trump's name involved in this, I knew it had no where to go except downward.

I like Neal Schon as a guitarist. Highly respected.

I didn't know what all he had to deal with in the groups keyboardist and his wife.

"Holy Crap" is just the most PG that I can get on this board. My reaction is way beyond that.

Condolences to Neal.

Thanks for the info.

PedroXimenez

(600 posts)
7. she's the most ruthless of these people in sucking money out of people
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 03:38 PM
Aug 2024

i've heard she schpiel, it's incredible, actually threatening people with terrible things if they don't pay outrageous amounts to her.

Crowman2009

(2,813 posts)
9. Gregg Rolie was the far superior keyboardist in Journey!
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 04:21 PM
Aug 2024

Last time I checked, they had hits before Cain joined the band. Not to mention that he was the first lead singer for Journey.

SupportSanity

(1,154 posts)
10. Everybody's Everything
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 04:46 PM
Aug 2024

I believe that:
Carlos found the song and got the rights to it
Greg is the lead singer on this song
Neal does the guitar solo

For many years I thought that Carlos did the guitar solo - loved it. Then I found out that Neal did the solo - much respect1

ProfessorGAC

(70,120 posts)
11. Far Better
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:55 PM
Aug 2024

Cain's playing is soulless & wholly lacking in interesting ideas.
He's a hack. His "cred" line was he studied the Hanon method.
Yeah, so did 10 million other kids learning piano. It was even more common than the Schirmer method I had until I switched to jazz.
The guy never played an original idea.
I could have played what he did with my right hand in my pocket.
Rollie played with passion & was a lightyear better at rhythm.

litwoken

(3 posts)
12. Another vote for Gregg here...
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:24 AM
Nov 2

Last edited Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:00 PM - Edit history (1)

Less hits but better music. Of course I'm partial to the more gritty and raw rock feel of the post Santana spin off. The synthesizer (IMHO) ruined a lot of the bands I was into at the time. (Rush, Van Halen, etc)

I actually lived near both Gregg and Cain in the 80s. James Hetfield used to live up there during Metallica's hey day. Ran into Gregg a few times and he was always such a cool down to earth guy. In fact, the first time I met him, he saved my life. There was a mud slide in my neighborhood that took out a house and pushed it off the foundation and into a creek behind the property. A bunch of neighbors were helping salvage what they could and somehow they let a dumb kid like me in there to play around. My shoes were muddy and I started slipping down some busted up angled tile flooring heading for some jagged wood and exposed nails and out of no where someone picks me up and puts me down on stable footing. I was speechless and kinda in shock and he gave me this look like why the F are you here?! I never did properly thank him. I don't think he remebered me the second time we met and I wasn't going to remind him. lol

Crowman2009

(2,813 posts)
13. The audience seemed more mellow and chilled out during the Gregg Rollie days of Journey.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 11:52 AM
Nov 4

Then after Ansley Dunsbar left and later Gregg, it was just screaming teenage girls. But I'm into long 10+ minute songs with occasional singing, so that's where I'm coming from.

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