Perhaps you should try online. I use True fire for learning and adding to my chops best of luck friend.
https://truefire.com/browse?srsltid=AfmBOops60kj4fV1G4Tdf8GxNWY5RI1AcmUByhz5QUnyBu_PlbVCe69e

I'll be sure to check this out for sure. I'll use any tools at my disposal to learn jazz. I love jazz more than most people do, and to be able to create something even a fraction as good as what I listen to would make me a happier person!

That has been my experience, at least.

I have spent the last 6 months working triads and 7th arpeggios into my lead work. All on acoustic, because I had learned that electric & acoustics are almost separate instruments that should be approached differently.
Keep learning. And I'm 5 months from 65 years on piano & 2 months from 50 years on guitar.
There are always ideas we've never employed before.

He was a 'good ole boy' who called people 'Bo!' all the time. but he was a very good player.

So, one talent ( if you wish to call it that) that I have is that I am very good at recognizing music. I have shot down many songs that others have written because I recognized that they had (usually accidentally) copied another tune. We were sitting and talking about new tunes that we had written and the other guitarist played us something he had come up with. I immediately realized it sounded like another, already popular tune and pointed it out to him. My buddy turned to us both and said, "Well, there ain't but a hunnert and sixty-six notes on the muthahfukah, I'm sure they have all been played by now!"

Very wise words, actually.

The trick is to constantly come up with new ways to make the same one hundred and sixty-six notes sound good and fresh and relatable.

Which requires a constant state of learning and discovery. Otherwise, those notes will just be the same old thing.

Jam on, Prof!

BTW, here is my baby. Yamaha G Series. I remember one night after a show, letting Michael Allman mess around with it. He liked it a lot. He and I did an impromptu acoustic version of 'Whipping Post', which I had mentioned was my fave song from his father's band, and that I usually did an acoustic cover of it.

A highlight of my career.

Had to tell him it was not for sale, though. And, we both forget about him signing it that evening, after he said he would. Oh well.

(Hey, we were musicians at an after party. You can imagine the state we were in. LOL.)

Though I'm not sure where 166 notes came from.
Even on a 24 fret electric there are only 144, and 2/3rds of those are repeated at least once. Actually only 4 notes can't be played elsewhere. I'd say there are only about 40 notes to work with. But, having the same notes in different places opens up the patterns that form.
But, i get his overall point. The same could be said about western music in general.
There are only 12 tones; the formula for chords is well established; and the ear is trained in those western music motifs. It's a certainty that songs will resemble some other songs.
Geez, John Fogarty got sued for sounding too much like John Fogarty!
I've got too many guitars to post pics. In fact, I don't have photos of most of them, even if I wanted to post them.
I've got 14 hanging on the walls of my rec room, a bass in the corner (in the case), a mandolin, a real piano, 2 digital keyboards, a couple amps & a 16 track recording console in there. My wife doesn't get to decorate much in there.
But, I've played easily over 2,000 gigs in my 30 years performing so the extra cash flow was available for all these toys. I have purchased one cheap acoustic since I quit performing. My accumulating days are over.
Funny thing is, in my 30 years of active gigging, I was a multikeyboardist for 90% at least. Yet I ended up with 17 stringed instruments.
Musicians!

I started as a singer. My guitar playing was solely to accompany myself.

I ended up spending most of the last twenty years of my music career as a bass player in an instrumental group. Go figure.

I have been steadily scaling down over the years. When one is completely over it and disillusioned about the entire thing, one is in constant conflict with oneself over getting rid of the gear, as it is akin to removing a limb. It is not easy, even as one is trying to put some distance between it and oneself.

Like you said... Musicians!

on Terry Kath, produced by this daughter, called The Terry Kath Experience, so I thought I'd check out this forum for the first time. For anyone interested it's available on YouTube.

So I realize you're the guitar player, but my question is this - would not a 24 fret guitar actually have 150 'notes' (realizing they are not all unique)? And regarding notes that can't be played elsewhere, I come up with 6. Assuming, of course, standard tuning.

Anyway, I'm glad I veered over here, and will check out a few of your band's videos as well!

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The first 4 notes on the 6th string, and (on a 22 fret guitar which all of mine are except the Telecaster) & the 5 notes after the 17th fret on the 1st string.
The 22nd fret on the 2nd string is an A; so is fret 17 on the 1st string.
So, I get 12. If I said something different the first time, I apologize for causing confusion.
The note that can be played the most different spots is the E at string 1 open. It can be played in 5 different place! Same with the F.
Another thing to consider is that even on a 24 fret guitar, there a 5 E notes, therefore 4 octaves plus 1. 12 notes per octave times 4 plus 1 is 49.5
So, 50 is actually one too many.
On my 22 fret guitars I have even fewer! 21 frets even fewer
Hope you enjoy the videos. As I'm the keyboardist in most of those clips, here's my SoundCloud link where you can hear my guitar player in much bigger doses.
https://m.soundcloud.com/user-134084288/popular-tracks

so there's E - F - F# - G - G#.

So 24 frets plus open would be 150, right? Anyway, I will check out your videos later. I played in bands starting in 1965 to around 1971. Lots of fun, we had a bus and traveled quite a bit.

24 tines 6 plus 1 = 144 +1 or 145.

The last 23 years the bands I was in averaged about 84 gigs a year.
It's why I don't do it anymore.
2,100 gigs is enough for me.
Before that (as a tween & teen) I was involved in jazz piano competitions. Got tired of that so I became a rock musician.
I still play every day (piano & acoustic guitar) but with no other ambition than to get more interesting in my playing.
It's still fun & I keep learning things, so no reason to quit.
You really should check out that SC link too. A ton of my guitar work there.

He has a whole series. The first, Volume 1 is titled - How to play jazz and improvise.

I actually tried using a play along book, but it didn't teach me the note fingerings so even being able to read what notes it wanted me to play didn't really help me. I appreciate this I'll look into it.

There's a "Trumpet for dummies" and a "Clarinet for dummies"
Good Luck!

I play jazz guitar and I'm learning to play the violin.

Very helpful thank you dude!