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Related: About this forumAnyone watching the "Kennedy" piece on History Channel
Wow, I was 12 when the cuban missile crisis was happening. Nuclear missiles 😳 😳 😳 I had no idea how close we were to a strike.
Irish_Dem
(57,358 posts)which almost started a war. I was ten y/o but I remember the ominous sound to the news reports
and my mother looking quite worried.
Xavier Breath
(5,005 posts)Now I just have to find time too watch them. It may have to wait until after Thanksgiving and all of the work that's going into that.
a kennedy
(32,066 posts)Xavier Breath
(5,005 posts)I'll be interested to see the influence - if any - of his youthful perspective.
MOMFUDSKI
(7,080 posts)time and home on leave. Stopped to visit my parents and they talked a lot about the situation. I could sense the worry.
rurallib
(63,196 posts)Per Thom Hartmann's daily newsletter this morning:
https://hartmannreport.com/p/four-presidents?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=302288&post_id=138954997&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=3lpqr&utm_medium=email
This rejection of democracy and turn toward criminality and its logical end-point, fascism, started in the modern GOP with Richard Nixon.
He took millions in now-well-documented bribes both while Vice President to Eisenhower and as President (his VP, Spiro Agnew, resigned rather than go to prison for taking bribes). Nixon saw public service as a way to bathe himself in money, power, and adulation.
He didnt care a bit about democracy.
As Lamar Waldron and I point out in detail in Legacy of Secrecy: The Long Shadow of the JFK Assassination, then-President Eisenhowers then-Vice President, Richard Nixon, was getting beat up badly in the 1960 election by his opponent, Senator John F. Kennedy.
Most of it had to do with Cuba, where mobsters affiliated with Nixon for decades had just lost fortunes, millions and millions of dollars in annual revenue.
After the Cuban revolution of 1959, Castro came to the US to seek military and economic aid for his island nation; Eisenhower left town, forcing Castro to meet instead with VP Nixon.
Given that Castro had just overthrown the dictator Batista, a friend of both Nixon and Nixons mafia patrons, the Vice President essentially blew off Castro, sending him into the welcoming arms of Nikita Khrushchevs Soviet Union.
Thus, throughout the 1960 presidential race, Senator Kennedy pounded on Vice President Nixon for having let Cuba go communist on his watch. In response, Vice President Nixon put together a series of CIA and Mafia plots to assassinate Castro, timed to happen before the November 1960 election.
His hope was that if the Eisenhower/Nixon administration could be seen as having successfully overthrown Castro in 1960 it would de-fang JFKs attacks and make Nixon who Eisenhower had put in charge of Cuba policy a national hero just in time for the election.
Nixon figured that would be enough to help him beat JFK at the polls. It was going to be his October Surprise. (The remnant of this scheme was the failed Bay of Pigs invasion.)
For Nixon democracy was just an inconvenience, an obstacle to be conquered. He never really believed in it.
You can imagine Nixons frustration when plot after plot was bungled or foiled and, by election day, Castro was still happily ensconced in the Havana presidential palace. This appears to be the moment Nixon decided that, if he had a chance to run for president again, hed not just consider a CIA-Mafia plot but would embrace far more extreme measures.
Thus began the first Republican plot to commit full-out treason to win a presidential election.
Septua
(2,562 posts)Learned a lot about JFK I didn't know. He was well prepared for the Presidency and one of the most competent we've had. He wasn't in it for money or power or glory; actually wanted to serve. He was a hero as a torpedo boat captain in WWII and had to pull strings to get in the military rather than pay a doctor to disqualify him for bone spurs. And he suffered some serious health issues most of his life.
One quote he made will always be in my memory: "Ask not what your Country can do for you; ask what YOU can do for your Country."
We need more like him and more who believed him.
doc03
(36,695 posts)I still remember where I was and how I felt when he was assassinated. Some redneck ran out of the school building yelling "Kennedy's been shot." He considered the assassination an event to celebrate.
doc03
(36,695 posts)him being shot. Republicans were assholes back then too. To this day I don't buy that single bullet theory either.
More_Cowbell
(2,204 posts)I looked it up for my mother, who missed a few over the weekend.