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California Recall (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 OP
So many things to be stressed about... This is high on the list. Please, California Dems... hlthe2b Aug 2021 #1
I also encourage people to vote early. Vote by mail and early voting begins on August 16 - Sept 13 JohnSJ Aug 2021 #2
K&R! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #3
Especially since gop backed RW radio host Elder xxqqqzme Aug 2021 #4
One damn slip up while trying to play defense against Crazy Man 45. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2021 #5
Writing Postcards to Voters for you from Ohio ladym55 Aug 2021 #6
That is awesome IcyPeas Aug 2021 #8
Thank you . xxqqqzme Aug 2021 #9
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #7
Insurance in case of disaster quaint Aug 2021 #10
I like this button LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #11
If the polls are correct, it's very tight. Northern_Light Aug 2021 #12
If this idiotic ballot measure passes it will be a disaster LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #15
There was a suggestion at Daily Kos to vote for a Dem to block Elder, if nothing else. I don't know chia Aug 2021 #20
Write in "Gavin Newsom" for question 2 dickthegrouch Aug 2021 #21
My understanding is that won't work Northern_Light Aug 2021 #22
Sadly I have to agree dickthegrouch Aug 2021 #23
Definitely would've if I could've! chia Aug 2021 #24
I didn't see any "Dems" I thought worth voting for Retrograde Aug 2021 #25
He's a crazy choice, I can't vote for him, but I can understand using him to block Elder. Maybe I'm chia Aug 2021 #26
He's totally unqualified Retrograde Aug 2021 #27
Please Vote NO on the recall election and do not enter a name in the 2nd part. LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #13
Didn't answer my question Northern_Light Aug 2021 #14
Here is a good explanation LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #16
Still a big risk Northern_Light Aug 2021 #17
The Newsome people are pushing this plan and I trust them LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #18
Trust them all you want Northern_Light Aug 2021 #19
Make calls against the recall with the DNC wryter2000 Aug 2021 #28
Already voted NO-- mailed it this morning directly at the post office ailsagirl Aug 2021 #29
Vote NO on the Newsom Recall! Return your ballots ASAP! Vote No on question 1 and leave question 2 LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #30
Voting no, of course and voting for this person in case it goes bad Eliot Rosewater Aug 2021 #31
#VoteNoRecall CALIFORNIA LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #32

hlthe2b

(106,399 posts)
1. So many things to be stressed about... This is high on the list. Please, California Dems...
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 03:27 PM
Aug 2021

Don't be deceived that your vote is not sorely needed.

JohnSJ

(96,601 posts)
2. I also encourage people to vote early. Vote by mail and early voting begins on August 16 - Sept 13
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 03:30 PM
Aug 2021

Vote Centers open from Sept 4 to Sept 14

Last day to vote is Sept 14

Vote NO on question 1





xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
4. Especially since gop backed RW radio host Elder
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 05:58 PM
Aug 2021

is an anti vaxxer, maskhole and forever t*****r. We certainly do not need THAT after Newsom has been has been a public health supporter throughout this pandemic.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,680 posts)
5. One damn slip up while trying to play defense against Crazy Man 45.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 06:22 PM
Aug 2021

Teapublicans here ought not be given power with less than the majority of the vote.

We have to anticipate every loophole they'll dig up. They can't win, but they have perfected the art of lying and cheating.







ladym55

(2,577 posts)
6. Writing Postcards to Voters for you from Ohio
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 07:34 PM
Aug 2021

Postcards to Voters is sending Dems all across California to remind them to vote NO and get those mail-in ballots returned. I hope to do my bit to help you all out.

You have a state doing many good things, and you certainly don't need an incompetent radio hack coming in to mess things up.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
9. Thank you .
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 06:06 AM
Aug 2021

I am on a postcard writing team here. I am encouraged by the impact of the handwritten cards.

quaint

(3,570 posts)
10. Insurance in case of disaster
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:42 AM
Aug 2021

Checked out the candidate list but only one my convictions allow me to vote for: Jacqueline McGowan.
She has been described as a Democratic cannabis advocate but she is much more.
Please check out questions and answers here: votersedge

While there, please see the Q&A with another Democrat, Daniel Watts: votersedge
He is described as a lawyer who specializes in First Amendment cases. However, on Martindale, I learned he served simultaneously as president of the campus ACLU and Federalist Society chapters, often pitting the two organizations against each other in head-to-head debates. While a 20-year-old, he ran for California governor in the 2003 recall election.

I'm just putting in my two cents, you all follow your own conscience.

Northern_Light

(24 posts)
12. If the polls are correct, it's very tight.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:03 PM
Aug 2021

I live in Calif and my ballot is on the way. I'm absolutely voting "NO" on the recall.

What concerns me is Newsom is recommending No, and leave the next question blank if the vote turns out yes.

The polls I've seen (if they can be trusted) show this as very tight (per wikipedia near bottom of page):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_California_gubernatorial_recall_election

Aggregate polls are yes 48, no 46. The most recent polls thankfully show yes 46, no 54.

If this passes the leading candidate (who only needs a simple majority) is Larry Elder a trumpy ultra right wing talk show host. Also, I know even if this freak is elected the CA legislators is not going to work with him. However, he can do a lot of damage just with mandates (has already said he's reverse the mask and vaccine mandate). And, yes we have a new election in 2022, but he can do a lot of damage in just a year.

Newsom recommending a no vote on the 2nd question is selfish and and insane. The only Democratic candidate who showed any chance in 1 poll only is a real estate youtuber who is recommending a yes on the recall (Kevin Paffrath).

I'm really concerned a lot of Democratic voters won't vote thinking the recall will never happen.

For other Calif voters, do you know or can you think of any Democratic candidate other than Paffrath who any chance at all?

LetMyPeopleVote

(154,617 posts)
15. If this idiotic ballot measure passes it will be a disaster
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:17 PM
Aug 2021

The people elected Newsome and he should remain the governor. I agree with Newsome plan

chia

(2,379 posts)
20. There was a suggestion at Daily Kos to vote for a Dem to block Elder, if nothing else. I don't know
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 12:01 PM
Aug 2021

what to do, as I said in another thread here, I've got my NO filled in, and can't quite bring myself to mail my ballot without voting for a Dem, just in case.

Here's the thread from DK, where they're also undecided about the best course of action:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/9/2044767/-If-California-recall-does-succeed-Any-recommendations-for-the-best-progressive-replacement#comment_81539719

dickthegrouch

(3,551 posts)
21. Write in "Gavin Newsom" for question 2
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 04:18 PM
Aug 2021

That's the only sure way
I don't think it's wasting the vote.
I think that result renders the first symbolic and takes care of any vote splitting between the 9 dems and 25 thugs.
He would not be gaining a third term because it's described as "who should complete Governor Newsom's term if the first question succeeds in removing him.
There's nothing I know of that can prevent him form taking the position again.
However, I am not an elections expert.

Discuss and implement if feasible.

Northern_Light

(24 posts)
22. My understanding is that won't work
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 06:23 PM
Aug 2021

Voters can also write in their own choice — however, it will only count if it’s someone from the certified list. Also, since Newsom can’t run as a replacement candidate, write-in votes for him will not count.

From this article (See What's on the ballot and second question):
https://ktla.com/news/california/california-recall-election-how-to-vote-and-whats-on-the-ballot/

Retrograde

(10,661 posts)
25. I didn't see any "Dems" I thought worth voting for
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 08:23 PM
Aug 2021

I know some people on DU are advocating for Paffrath, but from what I've seen he's a Republican who puts a D after his name. Using the National Guard to round up the homeless? Really?

chia

(2,379 posts)
26. He's a crazy choice, I can't vote for him, but I can understand using him to block Elder. Maybe I'm
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 09:48 PM
Aug 2021

wrong, maybe a YouTuber with crazy ideas and no actual ability to govern a state of 40 million people with an economy that's 5th. in the world really is better than being stuck with Elder. I just want Governor Newsom to survive the recall, is that really too much to ask?

/rant

Retrograde

(10,661 posts)
27. He's totally unqualified
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:23 AM
Aug 2021

which is why I will not vote for him. I can say the same for all of the so-called candidates.

I am no longer voting for the lesser of two (or more) evils: if someone is not qualified for an office I will not vote for them. I will vote for people who might be my 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 25th choice if they have some serious qualifications, but I will not reward these clowns (yeah, I know this will have no impact on them)

Northern_Light

(24 posts)
14. Didn't answer my question
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:17 PM
Aug 2021

With all due respect:

1) I couldn't care less what actress Morgan Fairchild tweets. She may be a fine person and is entitled to her opinion, but I really don't care.

2) Didn't answer my question.

3) I live in California not Texas (ie. your Texas flag pic). So will have to live with some a crazy republican as governor if this passes. You already know what that's like with Abbott.

Northern_Light

(24 posts)
17. Still a big risk
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:39 PM
Aug 2021

You really like the tweets, huh. Can't stand social media myself. To me it's totally unsocial.

Local news talked theory about how during 2003 recall people got confused about voting for a candidate if the recall is yes. To me, if that's true they should spend inform people rather than AD spending to leave a ballot option blank.

Newsom has acted like a fool. This is I think the 6th time these crazy recallers have tried this since Newsom was elected. Then, when Newsom knows they are gunning for him, he's stupid enough to not follow his own mask mandate for a lobbyist birthday party.

Then, how about in 18 years they did nothing after we got idiot Arnie to change the screwed up recall process in CA.

Only good news is the most recent poll it looking better. YouGov poll is "No" at 52% and 54% with a larger sample size and lower margin of error. Still too tight though. Will depend on turn out and Dem's I've talked to haven't even known about the recall. R's I know are excited.

Northern_Light

(24 posts)
19. Trust them all you want
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:47 PM
Aug 2021

That's about as useful as me trusting the Democratic leadership in Texas. I don't live in Texas, so don't need to live with the outcome if they screw up.

I hope the Newsom plan works, but really pissed we're even in the position.

wryter2000

(47,502 posts)
28. Make calls against the recall with the DNC
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 11:18 AM
Aug 2021

https://events.democrats.org/event/387918/

I spent couple of hours making calls against the recall yesterday. Almost all calls go to voice mail, and you just hang up. Of the people who answered, I got one guy who couldn't wait until he got rid of Newsom, but he was polite. I had several really wonderful calls with people who are voting no. Just about all of them thanked me for making calls.

I made calls in NC for November last year and for GA in January, and the experience was fine. These calls were a lot more fun.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,537 posts)
31. Voting no, of course and voting for this person in case it goes bad
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 04:04 PM
Aug 2021

You can vote NO and vote for who becomes governor if the recall is successful, and from what i can tell, this is our best alternative under these circumstances.



If you vote NO and leave the 2nd part blank you are allowing the GOP to pick the new governor IF we lose the recall.


https://calmatters.org/projects/newsom-recall-candidates-kevin-paffrath/If he becomes governor:


Would seek to address homelessness within 60 days with “optional, emergency housing,” built by the National Guard, that provides three meals a day, showers, health care and substance abuse treatment
Would declare a state of emergency on housing and streamline permitting to build two million homes in four years, and would redevelop commercial spaces for homes
Would seek to build “net negative” housing communities, built around solar and wind farms that export energy to the rest of California
Would eliminate state income tax on the first $250,000 earned
Would legalize online and in-person gambling and seek to build Las Vegas-style casinos in partnership with casino builders, tribal communities and union workers
Would invest in wildfire prevention with technologically advanced detection and response
Would try to reduce crime by fully funding police departments, but shifting to better training and community integration instead of over-policing poor and minority communities
Would offer nonviolent offenders the option to do community service, such as cleaning streets and removing graffiti, instead of prison time
Would not impose any further COVID lockdowns, but would not ban counties or cities from imposing restrictions
Would establish ‘‘Future Schools” — two-year programs open to anyone age 16 and older that combine college, trade school, high school and financial education, and work with industry and nonprofits to create a hiring pipeline
Would seek the federal government’s help on the state’s water shortage by building a 14-foot-diameter pipeline from the Mississippi River to California
Would refocus high-speed rail money to reduce traffic congestion and pollution by building new roads, including variable-direction toll roads
Would start a daily vlog on his work as governor to boost transparency




And yes I realize you cant eliminate homelessness as described WHILE AT THE SAME TIME eliminating tax on income under $250K, clearly he has no idea how this stuff works but he is better than any con.
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