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Hiawatha Pete

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Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:22 PM Sep 2021

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Yes, you are missing a gazillion dollars to do this..... secondwind Sep 2021 #1
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Not too many states sabbat hunter Sep 2021 #2
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Most states don't allow for recall elections. Mine doesn't except in very limited circumstances. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #3
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No need to follow GOPers. Besides, every 4 years is often enough. Hoyt Sep 2021 #4
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Definitely agree California's recall is slimy. Don't understand why they make it easy. Hoyt Sep 2021 #12
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recall electiobns sabbat hunter Sep 2021 #5
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It gets old and if the Dems lose, kind of can be counter productive in the next election dutch777 Sep 2021 #10
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Didn't work against Walker in Wisconsin Zambero Sep 2021 #15
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They tried in Arizona with Ducey AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #17
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Yeah, and further convince the middle that voting is a joke. marble falls Sep 2021 #18
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California's is particularly low, I think nt AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #21
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R's have no scruples wasting taxpayer dollars on recalls unless there are significant issues. lambchopp59 Sep 2021 #23
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But look for the opening Tiger8 Sep 2021 #25

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
1. Yes, you are missing a gazillion dollars to do this.....
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:26 PM
Sep 2021

Response to secondwind (Reply #1)

sabbat hunter

(6,896 posts)
2. Not too many states
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:26 PM
Sep 2021

Have a recall process, especially as easy as California does. California between the ease of the propositions access, recalls, etc, show the downside of a direct democracy.

Response to sabbat hunter (Reply #2)

Ocelot II

(121,000 posts)
3. Most states don't allow for recall elections. Mine doesn't except in very limited circumstances.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:27 PM
Sep 2021

That meant we were stuck with Tim Pawlenty, a folksier version of DeSantis, for eight years.

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. No need to follow GOPers. Besides, every 4 years is often enough.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:28 PM
Sep 2021

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. Definitely agree California's recall is slimy. Don't understand why they make it easy.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:39 PM
Sep 2021

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sabbat hunter

(6,896 posts)
5. recall electiobns
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:29 PM
Sep 2021
Twenty states allow for gubernatorial recall. Some states, such as Louisiana and Michigan, provide for the recall of any elected public officeholder, with the exception of judges of courts of record, in their state constitutions.[1] Some states only allow a recall vote to proceed for specific grounds. For instance, the Kansas Constitution allows the recall of local and state officials in an elected office, with the exception of judicial officers. However, the grounds for a recall are: conviction of a felony, misconduct in office, or failure to perform duties as prescribed by law


https://ballotpedia.org/States_with_gubernatorial_recall_provisions

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dutch777

(3,478 posts)
10. It gets old and if the Dems lose, kind of can be counter productive in the next election
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:38 PM
Sep 2021

Not to say that Abbott, DeSantis and Noem's behavior hasn't been crazy and not in most people's best interest but doubt that there is enough Dem support there to mount a successful recall in those states. At the point you get everyone all hot and bothered, you better make it a win or you look foolish in a special election.

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Zambero

(9,767 posts)
15. Didn't work against Walker in Wisconsin
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:51 PM
Sep 2021

Voters in that state ultimately gave him the boot in a more conventional manner.

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AZSkiffyGeek

(12,608 posts)
17. They tried in Arizona with Ducey
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 07:12 PM
Sep 2021

Because of Covid they didn’t have many people gathering signatures, and prioritized the Southeast Valley for their drive up signature gathering. And the organizers got upset whenever people asked about more options.
I would have loved to sign, but not if I had to drive an hour to do it during my work day.

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marble falls

(62,249 posts)
18. Yeah, and further convince the middle that voting is a joke.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 08:26 PM
Sep 2021

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AZSkiffyGeek

(12,608 posts)
21. California's is particularly low, I think nt
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 09:09 PM
Sep 2021

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lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
23. R's have no scruples wasting taxpayer dollars on recalls unless there are significant issues.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 09:32 PM
Sep 2021

D's aren't nearly as purely partisan posturing prone (PPPP)
such as just name-calling an R "fascist" then basing an entire recall on an echo-chamber media frenzy stirring without substantiation.
The petition form I read by the partisan hacks contained no substantiated complaints. Just labeling Newsom as a "socialist", "failure" to i instantaneously solve public health problems the R's exacerbated, then point blame that the D didn't solve it all overnight. Whining about the lockdowns, despite it's largely agreed necessity and compliance.
Dem's aren't prone to just play mudslinging games with expensive processes... yet the R is supposed to be the "fiscally responsible" party? Things that make ya' go, HMMM.

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Tiger8

(432 posts)
25. But look for the opening
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 10:40 PM
Sep 2021

I think the timing might be good in TX and FL.

If nothing else, the recall will bloody them up (politically) and weaken any attempted run for the WH.

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