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cbabe

(4,166 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 10:52 AM Mar 2022

Slavery reparations

California task force: Reparations for direct descendants of enslaved people only

BY LIL KALISH
MARCH 30, 2022

After more than six hours of debate Tuesday, California’s reparations task force voted that only Black Californians who can prove a direct lineage to enslaved ancestors will be eligible for the statewide — and first-in-the nation — initiative to address the harms and enduring legacy of slavery.

The nine-member task force voted 5-4 in favor of defining eligibility for reparations based on lineage “determined by an individual being an African American descendant of a chattel enslaved person or the descendant of a free Black person living in the US prior to the end of the 19th century,” the motion read.

….

Kamilah Moore, task force chairperson, said that not going with a lineage-based approach would “aggrieve the victims of slavery.”

Others, like Los Angeles-based civil rights lawyer Lisa Holder, argued against a strict lineage approach. “We must make sure we include present day and future harms,” Holder said. “The system that folks are advocating for here, where we splice things up, where only one small slice benefits, will not abate the harms of racism.”

https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2022/03/california-reparations-task-force-eligibility/

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Slavery reparations (Original Post) cbabe Mar 2022 OP
California was not a slave state. Why should it pay. demosincebirth Mar 2022 #1
For how they treated black in general. jimfields33 Mar 2022 #2
History of slavery in California cbabe Mar 2022 #3
Washing gold old as dirt Mar 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author cbabe Mar 2022 #5
Thanks. Translation? cbabe Mar 2022 #6
I can do that, but I'll have to do it on a different machine. old as dirt Mar 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author old as dirt Mar 2022 #9
Spanish old as dirt Mar 2022 #8
Buen dicho! demosincebirth Apr 2022 #16
English (via DeepL) old as dirt Mar 2022 #10
Grammy Nod For Colombia's Choc Quib Town Dispels 400 Years Of History old as dirt Mar 2022 #11
Thank you for the translation and the introduction to a great talent. Also, cbabe Mar 2022 #12
Gold is a part of identity for afrocolombianos. old as dirt Mar 2022 #13
Songs of resistance give us heart. And courage. cbabe Mar 2022 #14
There was lots of resistance. old as dirt Mar 2022 #15

jimfields33

(18,904 posts)
2. For how they treated black in general.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 11:31 AM
Mar 2022

It will be interesting to see how much each person gets. It’s a number that will be smaller then it should but it should be six figures each at least. This is the first step.

cbabe

(4,166 posts)
3. History of slavery in California
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 11:31 AM
Mar 2022

April 2, 2020
By Susan Anderson
California, a “Free State” Sanctioned Slavery

In a late-night raid in April 1852, three formerly enslaved black men who had built a lucrative business hauling mining supplies during the California all Gold Rush, were rousted from their cabin by armed white men. They were forcibly taken before a justice of the peace in Sacramento County who ordered them deported to their former “owner,” a white man in Mississippi.

Robert Perkins, his brother Carter, and their business partner Sandy Jones, would file the first lawsuit challenging the state’s new Fugitive Slave Law. Passed just 6 weeks earlier, it decreed that any enslaved black person who had entered California when it was still a territory had no legal right to freedom even though the state constitution banned slavery.

In 1848 when the gold rush hit, white southerners flocked to the state with hundreds of enslaved black people, forcing them to toil in gold mines, often hiring them out to cook, serve, or perform a variety of labor. Sometimes fortunes were amassed on the backs of this free labor. Yet California’s place in the nation’s history of slavery is missing from most historical accounts and many are surprised to learn of its practice in the golden state.



California’s constitution proclaimed that “neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, unless for punishment of a crime, shall ever be tolerated.” Yet archives statewide contain evidence that slavery was practiced out in the open. One newspaper ad in the Sacramento Transcript offered “A valuable Negro girl, aged eighteen…of amiable disposition, a good washer, ironer and cook” for sale.



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https://californiahistoricalsociety.org/blog/california-a-free-state-sanctioned-slavery/

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old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
7. I can do that, but I'll have to do it on a different machine.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:07 PM
Mar 2022

I'm all thumbs on this device.

Stay tuned.

Response to old as dirt (Reply #7)

 

old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
8. Spanish
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:09 PM
Mar 2022

A mi tierra llego un fulano
Llevándose todo mi oro
A mi tierra llego un fulano
Llevándose todo mi oro
Vestido de blanco entero
Y con acento extranjero
Prometió a cambio de oro
Dejarme mucho dinero
El tipo de quien les hablo
Nunca mas apareció
Cogió mi metal precioso
Y todo se lo llevo
Ladrón te fuiste
Con mi oro
Y me dejaste
Sin mi oro
Ladrón te fuiste
Con mi oro
Y me dejaste
Sin mi oro
Con solo engaño y na'ma
Viniste pa'ca
A llevarte mi oro
Primero
Con tu acento extranjero
Y tu pinta de sombreo
Hecha pa'ya
Fuera de aca papa
No vuelve a robar mi oro
Señor
Yo te dejo
Vete con todo y espejo
Ladrón te fuiste
Con mi oro
Y me dejaste
Sin mi oro
Ladrón te fuiste
Con mi oro
Y me dejaste
Sin mi oro
To mi oro
Se acabao
Los dueños son empleados
Mas pobreza ha llegado
La inocencia se amarchao
Y de aqui no me voy
Voy
De esta tierra yo soy
Soy
Mi alma es como los ríos
Camino recorrido
Ladrón te fuiste
Con mi oro
Y me dejaste
Sin mi oro
Ladrón te fuiste
Con mi oro
Y me dejaste
Sin mi oro
Oro oro
Te llevaste mi oro
Oro oro
Te llevaste mi oro
Oro oro
Te llevaste mi oro
Oro oro
Te llevaste mi oro
Oro oro
Te llevaste mi oro
Oro oro
Te llevaste mi oro
Oro oro
Te llevaste mi oro
Oro oro
Te llevaste mi oro
Hay ladrón te fuiste
Con mi oro
Hay me dejaste
Sin mi oro
Hay te fuiste
Con mi oro
Hay me dejaste
Sin mi oro
Y pa barekiar
Con mi oro
Ni pa barekiar
Sin mi oro
Hay vos te fuiste
Con mi oro
Hay me dejaste
Sin mi oro oro oro
Oro oro oro oro
Oro oro
Te llevaste mi oro
Oro oro
Te llaveste mi oro

 

old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
10. English (via DeepL)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:12 PM
Mar 2022

A guy came to my land
Taking all my gold with him
A so-and-so came to my land
Taking all my gold with him
Dressed in full white
And with a foreign accent
He promised in exchange for gold
To leave me a lot of money
The guy I'm talking about
Never showed up again
Took my precious metal
And took it all away
Thief you left
With my gold
And you left me
Without my gold
Thief you left
With my gold
And you left me
Without my gold
With only deceit and na'ma
You came all the way
To take my gold
First
With your foreign accent
And your shady look
You're a good girl
Get out of here daddy
Don't come back to steal my gold
Mr.
I'm leaving you
Go away with everything and mirror
Thief you left
With my gold
And you left me
Without my gold
Thief you left
With my gold
And you left me
Without my gold
All my gold
It's gone
The owners are employees
More poverty has come
Innocence is gone
And I'm not leaving here
I'm going
From this land I am
I am
My soul is like the rivers
Road traveled
Thief you left
With my gold
And you left me
Without my gold
Thief you left
With my gold
And you left me
Without my gold
Gold gold
You took my gold
Gold gold
You took my gold
Gold gold
You took my gold
Gold gold
You took my gold
Gold gold
You took my gold
Gold gold
You took my gold
Gold gold
You took my gold
Gold gold
You took my gold
There thief you went
With my gold
There you left me
Without my gold
There you went
With my gold
There you left me
Without my gold
And to barekiar
With my gold
Ni pa barekiar
Without my gold
There you went
With my gold
You left me
Without my gold gold gold gold
Gold gold gold gold gold
Gold gold gold
You took my gold
Gold gold gold
You took my gold

 

old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
11. Grammy Nod For Colombia's Choc Quib Town Dispels 400 Years Of History
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:26 PM
Mar 2022
https://www.npr.org/sections/altlatino/2010/12/04/131762983/grammy-nod-for-colombia-s-choc-quib-town-dispels-400-years-of-history

Goyo is from Condoto, Chocó. Here she is in her home town.

Cuando la Goyo de Chocquibtown llora

When Chocquibtown's Goyo cries



ChocQuibTown - Condoto

cbabe

(4,166 posts)
12. Thank you for the translation and the introduction to a great talent. Also,
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 10:06 PM
Mar 2022

I would suggest not only their gold was taken but their lives and their lands as the men had their business and their freedom stolen.

(From site quoted above: Robert Perkins, his brother Carter, and their business partner Sandy Jones, would file the first lawsuit challenging)

 

old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
13. Gold is a part of identity for afrocolombianos.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 10:34 PM
Mar 2022
A La Mina No Voy - Traditional Colombian Folksong

A portrait of Afro-Colombian life, 'A La Mina No Voy' (I am not going to the mine), is a Colombian folksong that was sung by slaves resisting work in the mines.
_____________________________________________________

Manque (aunque) mi amo me mate/ Although my master would kill me
A la mina no voy/ I am not going to the mine

No quiero morir/ I don't want to die
De un canalón/ In the waterway (of gold placering)
A la mina no voy/ I am not going to the mine

Mi amo pegado, yo lo digo/ My master punishes, I say it
Con justícia y con grador/ With justice and with willingness
A la mina no voy/ I am not going to the mine

Que a lo' hombres no 'e venden/ Don't sell the men
Porque tienen corazón/ Because they have courage
A la mina no voy/ I am not going to the mine

Manque (aunque) mi amo me mate/ Although my master would kill me
A la mina no voy/ I am not going to the mine



"A la mina" - Leonor González Mina (La Negra grande de Colombia)



LA MINA (Video Clip)

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