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hunter

(38,937 posts)
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 04:37 PM Jul 2022

Bakersfield to Madera...

Like it or not, I think this is going to become a major urban corridor as water becomes too scarce and too expensive for farming.

Paradoxically this urban development could end up having a smaller environmental footprint than today's industrial agriculture. Urban residents might want to see long vanished riparian environments and wetlands restored and they'll have the political and economic power to accomplish this.

High speed rail will likely be part of that.


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AllaN01Bear

(23,054 posts)
2. takes me 8 hours by conventional train from modesto ca . bus even longer . would hate to sit in tra
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 04:50 PM
Jul 2022

faffic for hours on 99 goin nowhere.

hunter

(38,937 posts)
5. I've spent many long hours of my life on highway 99 in stop-and-go traffic.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 05:29 PM
Jul 2022

More hours than that in Los Angeles, however.

My longest drive ever in stop-and-go traffic was a San Diego to Santa Barbara stretch. Traffic never let up. I was headed to San Luis Obispo.

North of Santa Barbara I had to stop, scramble down the cliff, and scream at the ocean. If anyone saw or heard me they probably walked away in a hurry.

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