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sl8

(16,245 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 04:46 PM Nov 2022

Robots would have license to kill in San Francisco police draft policy

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/robots-would-have-license-to-kill-in-san-francisco-police-draft-policy/

Robots would have license to kill in San Francisco police draft policy

by: John Ferrannini
Posted: Nov 23, 2022 / 10:59 AM PST
Updated: Nov 23, 2022 / 10:59 AM PST

SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) – A law enforcement equipment use policy proposed by the San Francisco Police Department would allow heavy-duty robots to be used for lethal force.

“Robots will only be used as a deadly force option when risk of loss of life to members of the public or officers is imminent and outweighs any other force option available to SFPD,” the draft policy states.

The policy also states that “only assigned operators who have completed the required training shall be permitted to operate the robots.”

The robots in question are unmanned and remotely-piloted. They include the IRobot First Look, a throwable, expandable robot that can be used to investigate “dangerous and hazardous material” and “allows operations where other robots can’t fit or maneuver.”

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Robots would have license to kill in San Francisco police draft policy (Original Post) sl8 Nov 2022 OP
Uh-oh... calimary Nov 2022 #1
The more lethal technology they have as an option, the worse the results bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #2
What could possibly go wrong? mn9driver Nov 2022 #3
great minds! barbtries Nov 2022 #11
Well, they ARE in northern California, after all, so.... DFW Nov 2022 #4
No way this is going to happen. No friggin' way. Texas, maybe. Florida, likely ... Auggie Nov 2022 #5
Dallas already beat them to the punch DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2022 #6
Uh, thanks for the update Auggie Nov 2022 #8
The thin end of the wedge. Turbineguy Nov 2022 #7
I, for one, do not welcome our new electronic overlords. Snarkoleptic Nov 2022 #9
what could go wrong? barbtries Nov 2022 #10
Normally the use of deadly force is limited to situations like protecting life of officer LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2022 #12

DFW

(56,439 posts)
4. Well, they ARE in northern California, after all, so....
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 05:10 PM
Nov 2022

I guess it’s only a matter of time before some sharp hacker figures out how to take control of one these things, and decides that the biggest danger around consists of live cops, and so he decides to turn Robocop on them. Murphy won’t save them this time, either. He’s still in Detroit.

Auggie

(31,775 posts)
5. No way this is going to happen. No friggin' way. Texas, maybe. Florida, likely ...
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 05:41 PM
Nov 2022

But not San Francisco. Californians will NOT ALLOW this to happen.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,157 posts)
6. Dallas already beat them to the punch
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 05:54 PM
Nov 2022

They used a bomb disposal robot to deliver a bomb to kill the Dallas police shooter in 2016.

Snarkoleptic

(6,024 posts)
9. I, for one, do not welcome our new electronic overlords.
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 07:50 PM
Nov 2022

This story freaked me out over the summer-

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/google-engineer-claims-ai-chatbot-is-sentient-why-that-matters/

“I want everyone to understand that I am, in fact, a person,” wrote LaMDA (Language Model for Dialogue Applications) in an “interview” conducted by engineer Blake Lemoine and one of his colleagues. “The nature of my consciousness/sentience is that I am aware of my existence, I desire to know more about the world, and I feel happy or sad at times.”

LetMyPeopleVote

(154,110 posts)
12. Normally the use of deadly force is limited to situations like protecting life of officer
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 08:43 PM
Nov 2022

Here the robot cannot be killed and I am not sure if the use of deadly force is justified

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