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https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/california-cops-decertified-18151927.phpSophia Bollag
Updated: June 14, 2023 7:06 p.m.
Californias police standards commission is bracing to decertify or suspend 3,000 to 3,500 police officers each year for serious misconduct under a new state law, according to estimates from the commission.
The estimates suggest the police officers engaging in serious misconduct in any given year could represent a significant percentage of the roughly 90,000 officers working in California, although some may already be fired or retired by the time the commission moves to strip them of their certification.
The estimates, detailed in a budget request from the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training, are preliminary. The commissions new power to decertify officers took effect at the start of the year, so the commission doesnt yet know exactly how many cases it will receive each year or how many will ultimately rise to the level of decertification. So far this year, it has already received thousands of serious misconduct complaints that it is investigating.
Lizzie Buchen, who advocated for the police decertification law and now serves on the board that will review decertification cases when they are appealed, said she was surprised that the estimates are so high.
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Otto_Harper
(725 posts)I would say this is a low-ball number. There are large numbers of badge wearers who do not deserve to wear a badge, nor even to be allowed to live among normal, civilized humans.
bucolic_frolic
(47,055 posts)I suspect there are 7-15% of professional anythings just skirting by, either unable or unwilling to measure up to standards of the profession, or in it because it soothes some private agenda they can't find elsewhere.
RipVanWinkle
(265 posts)I'm retired now, but when I was working as a auditor, a few of my co-workers were, in my opinion, not up to standards.
onetexan
(13,899 posts)they have been found as a serious offender they deserve to be fired from their job given they've taken the oath to protect & serve the public and their crimes prove exactly the opposite of that. Better to be short staffed than to have crooked cops who can harm the public. The counties & cities will just need to do a better job at hiring qualified candidates.
EYESORE 9001
(27,529 posts)that I would classify as walking major findings. No corrective action short of firing would have sufficed.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,325 posts)hind them.
Abuse of power.
Rotten apples in Blue.
Kick 'em out.
bucolic_frolic
(47,055 posts)but I do get your point.
NJCher
(37,929 posts)Eom
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Many of the LOE's fired for cause simply move to another city or state. (or maybe join the Wagner group) Apparently, policing is their "calling".
brush
(57,641 posts)live love laugh
(14,426 posts)Good on California and governor Newsom.
617Blue
(1,616 posts)by municipalities sued by citizens over police misconduct, you'd think it would be in their interest to scrutinize applicant more thoroughly and dump the bad ones before they cost the city million$$.
multigraincracker
(34,105 posts)Always file a complaint on bad cops. The Brass fears lawsuits and need to know about bad police behavior.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Would such a fear be more justified if one lived in neighborhoods that are more heavily patrolled than, say, one who lived in a gated community?
EYESORE 9001
(27,529 posts)This orta be good.
multigraincracker
(34,105 posts)that cops file.
HAB911
(9,362 posts)with open arms and moving assistance money
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Both had as motivations to attend police academy blatantly racist violence. One of them was often my meatwagon partner. Ww just tended to agree to disagree about his racist shit. That was early 80's in the ambulance Corp, one of them shared pics of his LAPD badge years later, unknown if he grew out of that: he was under peer pressure from the other big lug who I never liked at all. But if he participated in racist policing I'd be glad he lost his job.
AllaN01Bear
(23,072 posts)constantly heard horror stories about lapd . we had our own trouble maker cops .
guess there might be more than one bad apple.
Danascot
(4,897 posts)When LEOs behave like that it's almost never an isolated instance. It's very likely they have committed other abuses so their removal helps prevent future incidents of bad behavior. Plus, removing the bad apples should help to lower the overall rate of complaints. Other states and jurisdictions should be implementing similar programs.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,577 posts)Its always been said that the police unions have such strong contracts, along with qualified immunity, its almost impossible to fire a cop.
Im guessing instead of paying out millions in wrongful death settlements, governments will be in court fighting wrongful termination suits.
Still, this seems like a good step, I wasnt aware of the law previously.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Response to sl8 (Original post)
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Mr.Bill
(24,804 posts)rejected when they applied to become police officers. Mostly by failing the psychiatric evaluation. I don't know how long they have been doing these evaluations, but in the case of these people I know, I'm glad they did.