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DBoon

(23,021 posts)
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 02:58 PM Feb 2024

LAT: Half of Republicans say California isn't really American

California’s national reputation as a place of dreams and prosperity is in jeopardy, battered by Republicans who dislike almost all aspects of the state and many Democrats who see it as too costly and a poor place to raise a family.

Nationwide, 50% of U.S. adults believe the state is in decline, according to a new survey for the Los Angeles Times.

Political polarization has intensified the negativity: 48% of Republicans believe the state is “not really American,” the survey found. Three in 10 Republicans say the home of Yosemite’s sheer peaks, Sequoia’s towering redwoods and Malibu’s beaches has a worse natural environment than other states.

Nearly 40% of Republicans don’t even think California is a good place to visit, though a majority in both parties say they have been to the state, according to the survey of 1,004 adults, conducted Jan. 26-28 by Leger, a Canadian firm that has polled extensively in the United States.


https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-02-13/golden-state-loses-luster-half-of-americans-say-california-in-decline

So now I can visit Joshua Tree and not have to associate with republicans. That's a win-win.

On Edit: the survey indicates that California residents have a much more positive view of our state, as do younger people nation-wide
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SarahD

(1,732 posts)
2. Sorry, not Joshua Tree.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:04 PM
Feb 2024

All our public lands are infested with freepers, preppers, dirt bikers, and so on, and so on. Last time I was there, I saw a mere handful of tent campers, rock climbers and other non motorized people.

RockRaven

(16,170 posts)
3. There are more Californians than registered Repugs in the entire USA.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:11 PM
Feb 2024

Current registered Repugs: just under 36M
Current population of California: just over 39M

What is "American" is whatever Americans are. So between Californians and Repugs, if anyone "isn't really American" it is Republicans.

ColinC

(10,499 posts)
4. Read between the lines. What they are trying to actually say is that THEY are not American.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:13 PM
Feb 2024

How could they be if they live in a place that is not America?

IcyPeas

(22,557 posts)
5. The way I interpret this is ... Repubs are afraid of Newsom
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:35 PM
Feb 2024

No paywall.

https://archive.is/gQQ9Q

Six in 10 adults nationwide think the state is a trendsetter and that it has had a positive impact on the country. The share who see California as a trendsetter rises to 7 in 10 among those ages 18-34. A similar share of younger Americans also says that California’s impact on the U.S. has been positive.
Younger people were also twice as likely (43%) to say they would consider moving to the state as are other Americans. Job opportunity was the top reason they cited (36%).
...
The public pounding by Fox News and conservative social media has helped drive negative views of the state on issues such as safety: Three-quarters of Republicans say they think the state is unsafe, despite recent improvements in crime statistics in Los Angeles and other major cities. In 2022, the most recent year for which the FBI has released state-by-state data, California’s reported rate of violent crime was above the national average, but similar to the rates in states as disparate as Colorado, South Carolina and Missouri.

Polly Hennessey

(7,420 posts)
6. Thankfully, I live in California. I love my home state.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 03:49 PM
Feb 2024

I suppose those that are not happy with California are free not to visit or move somewhere far away.

awesomerwb1

(4,522 posts)
7. The hate people have against CA
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 04:01 PM
Feb 2024

is driven by fox news. I am currently in T.x.s and I have friends I occasionally get together with for 'thirsty Thursdays". We try to avoid politics but there's always someone who'll make a comment that will trigger other comments for short periods of time.

Anyways, they hate California. They hate it with a passion. "The homeless are everywhere", "there are used syringes on the sidewalks", "there's shit on the streets", "the taxes are incredibly high" are some of the comments they like to regurgitate.

I moved here from SoCal and I miss it every day.

kysrsoze

(6,125 posts)
8. They're just jealous and don't want to admit we got it right.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 05:05 PM
Feb 2024

#4 economy in the world on our own... and they hate knowing that. Fuck them.

Tikki

(14,794 posts)
10. We love our 50+ years of living in California..sometimes we have wondered what raising our family might..
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 09:00 PM
Feb 2024

have been like in the Bay Area or San Diego or even Santa Barbara…but never any other place but California.

The Tikkis

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