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10/24 Podcast Why Miami-Dade matters. (Original Post) OrlandoDem2 Oct 2020 OP
Wonderful analysis OrlandoDem2 kansasobama Oct 2020 #1
Thanks but it's from @DaNumbersGuy on Twitter. Dave Trotter. OrlandoDem2 Oct 2020 #2
In that case, thank you for posting it. nt Earthshine2 Oct 2020 #3
I think he's ignoring a lot of situational influence Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #4
I don't disagree, but I want to make people aware that based on this guy's model OrlandoDem2 Oct 2020 #5
I wanted all the big Democratic counties to get to 99.9% return rate in a hurry Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #6

kansasobama

(1,495 posts)
1. Wonderful analysis OrlandoDem2
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 11:43 AM
Oct 2020

I saw this but I could never put it nicely the way you have. Thanks a bunch. I am looking forward to your info this evening. Any idea about the time?

By the way, Obama is there today and it is no coincidence. I am not very optimistic at this time but we will see. I feel sort of betrayed by some of the Democrats in this county.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
4. I think he's ignoring a lot of situational influence
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:31 PM
Oct 2020

As mentioned here several times, Miami-Dade mailed ballots the last possible day allowed by Florida law while most counties were a full week earlier. In following Michael McDonald's early voting site, the same tendency holds up in other states, when you check which counties mailed on what day. Even if you think 2 weeks is plenty of time it simply does not match the return rate of counties that have had the ballots for 3 weeks.

Also, Miami-Dade is 58% Hispanic, the only county in the state that is majority Hispanic. There are 915,000 registered Hispanic voters in Miami-Dade, which is 37% of the state total. For reference, Broward is second highest percentage of the state total, but it plummets all the way down to 11%.

Every cycle when I check the return rate, Miami-Dade lags early. That holds up for primaries also. For a numbers guy he doesn't seem to be aware of any of the numbers I mentioned above, or the simple reality that Hispanics and especially Cubans are not always in a hurry.

I am confident everything will normalize. The contact rate is light years above anything I have experienced previously. I was called and texted every day until my vote was counted. Now I am receiving mailers literally every day from the, "Center for Voter Information" in Tallahassee, urging me to mail my ballot if I have not already done so. In fact, today I received two mailers from them, with the same theme but slightly different. One was my voting record and basically saying don't stain your record by not voting this time.

Contrast to prior cycles when I was totally ignored by Democratic operations. I never heard from Bill Nelson one time after returning to Florida in late 2008.

OrlandoDem2

(2,270 posts)
5. I don't disagree, but I want to make people aware that based on this guy's model
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 04:19 PM
Oct 2020

things could be better in M-D at this point in time.

My wife is Cuban so I know all too well they aren’t in a hurry. Now is not the time for their Hispanic tendencies to show. My heart can’t take it. Lol.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
6. I wanted all the big Democratic counties to get to 99.9% return rate in a hurry
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:38 PM
Oct 2020

We should have a better idea after the Souls to the Polls events.

Mostly I don't understand all the scrutiny toward Florida and not other key states. For example, North Carolina began sending mail ballots nearly a month before Florida yet their return rate is markedly lower. Only 55% of Democratic ballots have been returned in North Carolina compared to 63% in Florida.

But North Carolina has had legal issues. I don't think there's any way of knowing how many ballots in either state have already arrived, but simply not in the system yet. Similar in Nevada where analysts are befuddled that the mail ballots seem to arrive in bunches. Some days Clark County reports huge number of mail ballots, other days nothing at all.

Too bad we can't all be like Iowa, where Democrats have already returned 85% of ballots, or South Carolina, where the overall return rate is 85%.

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