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Towlie

(5,432 posts) Sat Sep 10, 2022, 12:50 PM Sep 2022

A couple of devil's advocate questions about a campaign text message I just got from Charlie Crist.

[my name], it's Democrat Charlie Crist. I know a lot of campaigns are reaching out, but my race is the most consequential election this cycle.

Is it really the most consequential, or is it more important for Val Demings to beat Marco Rubio for the U.S. Senate? Of course they're both important but Charlie Crist justifies his plea for a lion's share of available Democratic voter's money with this argument:

We need to stop Ron DeSantis before he runs for President because that's what his real goal is: Become President and bring his anti-LGBTQ and anti-abortion policies to the federal level.

I'm asking you to make a choice, [my name]:

- You can do nothing, let Ron DeSantis's mega-donors buy him this seat, and set him up to bring his extremist agenda to the White House.

- Or we can rally together, do what's right for Florida, and stop DeSantis before he can hurt any more Americans.

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Is it a given that losing his position as governor would stop Ron DeSantis from running for president? Or is that an unwarranted assumption?

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A couple of devil's advocate questions about a campaign text message I just got from Charlie Crist. (Original Post) Towlie Sep 2022 OP

Losing an election in his home state certainly does not improve his chance of becoming President. Chainfire Sep 2022 #1

His slogan is "Make America Florida." How does that not scare the shit out of everyone? Native Sep 2022 #2

Losing would definitely damage DeSantis' chances in 2024. And his fascist 'experiment' in Florida emulatorloo Sep 2022 #3

DeSatan definitely more dangerous than Rubio Timeflyer Sep 2022 #4

He can still run, but it's a tough sell for a candidate who can't win in his own State. Midnight Writer Sep 2022 #5

Both offices are extremely important WA-03 Democrat Sep 2022 #6

It wouldn't stop him but it definitely deflates the enthusiasm around him In It to Win It Sep 2022 #7

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)

1. Losing an election in his home state certainly does not improve his chance of becoming President.

Reply to Towlie (Original post)

Sat Sep 10, 2022, 01:01 PM

Sep 2022

Native

(6,096 posts)

2. His slogan is "Make America Florida." How does that not scare the shit out of everyone?

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Sat Sep 10, 2022, 01:10 PM

Sep 2022

emulatorloo

(45,467 posts)

3. Losing would definitely damage DeSantis' chances in 2024. And his fascist 'experiment' in Florida

Reply to Towlie (Original post)

Sat Sep 10, 2022, 01:11 PM

Sep 2022

needs to be repudiated by voters - no rights for women, institutionalized homophobia, book banning, demonization of good education and teachers, wasting tax dollars attacking businesses that employ lots of Floridians because they oppose DeSantis’ dangerous policies.

Timeflyer

(2,470 posts)

4. DeSatan definitely more dangerous than Rubio

Reply to Towlie (Original post)

Sat Sep 10, 2022, 01:32 PM

Sep 2022

Rubio's votes, when he shows up, are predictably reThuglican, but DeathSatan is turning an entire state into his fiefdom. With reThuglican state house and senate, he's got almost total control over the lives of hundreds of thousands. And the damage he's done to FL education...let him try to run for POTUS. His personality may appeal to Proud Boys, but he won't be the only reThug in the primary.

Midnight Writer

(22,685 posts)

5. He can still run, but it's a tough sell for a candidate who can't win in his own State.

Reply to Towlie (Original post)

Sat Sep 10, 2022, 01:49 PM

Sep 2022

Especially if it is a key State like Florida.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,238 posts)

6. Both offices are extremely important

Reply to Towlie (Original post)

Sat Sep 10, 2022, 01:59 PM

Sep 2022

We need to win both!
Going to give to Val and Charlie right now and I encourage everyone to do the same.

Every $$ counts to defeat the fascist. Die MAGA scum!

In It to Win It

(8,864 posts)

7. It wouldn't stop him but it definitely deflates the enthusiasm around him

Reply to Towlie (Original post)

Mon Sep 12, 2022, 12:30 PM

Sep 2022

Given the make-up of the electorate as we've seen in the last couple of elections, it seems like Republicans increasingly need Florida to win the Presidency in the future.

It makes him a more difficult choice. If he couldn't win re-election here in Florida, what use is he as a nominee? Would he be able to win Florida in 2024 or 2028? All of that gets thrown into question.

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