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(9,670 posts) Mon Jul 24, 2023, 03:07 PM Jul 2023

Kill the constitution? A rewrite is Florida's latest nutty idea - Commentary

Kill the constitution? A rewrite is Florida’s latest nutty idea | Commentary

Florida politicians hatch so many harebrained ideas that it’s sometimes hard to keep track. Seriously, this state cultivates quackery the way Idaho does potatoes.

So you may have missed the latest head-shaker to come out of the Florida Legislature — a proposal to do away with Florida’s current constitution.

No, I’m not kidding. If I were kidding, I’d say: I’m so bad at math that if I got 50 cents for every math test I failed, I’d have $1.63 by now.

This, my friends, is serious. State Rep. Spencer Roach — the same GOP House member who helped hatch the government plan to take over Disney World — recently said he was launching a crusade to scrap the current state constitution and replace it with a new one.

Because who needs things like due process and freedom of speech? Clunky and outdated ideals like that can get in the way of an authoritarian agenda.

Roach took to Twitter last month to declare: “We need a complete rewrite of the Florida Constitution.” He then hit the road to make his case.

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Kill the constitution? A rewrite is Florida's latest nutty idea - Commentary (Original Post) In It to Win It Jul 2023 OP

Doesn't appear that the GQP will have enough states to change the USA's Constitution..... Lovie777 Jul 2023 #1

They would still be bound by the provisions of the US Constitution. rsdsharp Jul 2023 #2

Agreed that they would be bound "in theory", anciano Jul 2023 #3

The President is charged with "tak[ing] Care that the Laws be faithfully executed rsdsharp Jul 2023 #4

and he served in the military AND has a law degree. CurtEastPoint Jul 2023 #5

a bit heavy on the makeup there onethatcares Jul 2023 #8

The Florida constitution contains a "privacy clause" that makes Talibangelicals crazy. Timeflyer Jul 2023 #6

Let's hope the zealots on the Florida Supreme Court keeps it that way In It to Win It Jul 2023 #7

Lovie777

(15,072 posts)

1. Doesn't appear that the GQP will have enough states to change the USA's Constitution.....

Reply to In It to Win It (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2023, 03:17 PM

Jul 2023

therefore they will try and change the state Constitution that they are fully in control of for now.

So, basically, the Blue States are following the USA's Constitution and the GQP states want to change theirs.

Bottom line......................................

Democracy re: Blue states

Facsim re: Red states

rsdsharp

(10,191 posts)

2. They would still be bound by the provisions of the US Constitution.

Reply to In It to Win It (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2023, 03:25 PM

Jul 2023

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

Article VI, cl2

anciano

(1,536 posts)

3. Agreed that they would be bound "in theory",

Reply to rsdsharp (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 24, 2023, 03:53 PM

Jul 2023

but my concern would be "enforcement". For example, the Repub legislators in Alabama defied the Supreme Court just last Friday with their new Congressional election map. Who is going to force them to comply?
PS not trying to be a devil's advocate, but genuinely seeking knowledge here...

rsdsharp

(10,191 posts)

4. The President is charged with "tak[ing] Care that the Laws be faithfully executed

Reply to anciano (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 24, 2023, 04:09 PM

Jul 2023

Article II, Sec. 3.

In 1957, Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to protect the Little Rock Nine, and enforce Brown v Board of Education.

Lincoln fought a civil war to protect the Constitution, and preserve the Union.

The problem is if a President emulates Jackson when he said “[Chief Justice] John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it.”

CurtEastPoint

(19,192 posts)

5. and he served in the military AND has a law degree.

Reply to In It to Win It (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2023, 04:24 PM

Jul 2023

onethatcares

(16,572 posts)

8. a bit heavy on the makeup there

Reply to CurtEastPoint (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 27, 2023, 03:00 PM

Jul 2023

dontcha think?

His thoughts fit his surname though and Florida is full of them.

How does one broach the re write of the state constitution? Do they get on a dias and say, "You folks aren't entitled to any of the rights and privleges of the rest of the states and we're going to take away as many as we can"

FFS, he supposedly swore an oath to support the Constitution and protect it from all enemies both foreign and domestic.

Timeflyer

(2,668 posts)

6. The Florida constitution contains a "privacy clause" that makes Talibangelicals crazy.

Reply to In It to Win It (Original post)

Mon Jul 24, 2023, 07:12 PM

Jul 2023

"Every natural person has a right to let alone and free from government intrusion in the person's private life except as otherwise provided herein..." has been used to protect women's right to make decisions about their reproductive health.

In It to Win It

(9,670 posts)

7. Let's hope the zealots on the Florida Supreme Court keeps it that way

Reply to Timeflyer (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 24, 2023, 07:49 PM

Jul 2023

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