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In It to Win It

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Tue Jul 16, 2024, 03:39 PM Jul 2024

Abortion amendment supporters call ballot statement a 'dirty trick'

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/16/florida-abortion-amendment-ballot-statement-called-dirty-trick/74422824007/


TALLAHASSEE — A state panel late Monday finished revising a “financial impact statement” that will appear on the November ballot with a proposed constitutional amendment on abortion rights — with amendment supporters accusing the panel of a “dirty trick to mislead voters.”

Financial impact statements provide estimated effects of proposed constitutional amendments on government revenues and the state budget. They usually receive little attention, but the abortion measure spurred contentious debate and divided the panel.

Representatives of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ office and the Florida House pushed to include information in the statement about issues such as the possibility that passage of the amendment could lead to Medicaid-funded abortions and spur a wide range of costly lawsuits. Those are issues that amendment opponents have cited as they fight the proposal.

Ultimately, with the help of the panel’s representative from the Florida Senate, DeSantis’ office and the House got information they sought into the statement.

In part, the statement says there is “uncertainty about whether the amendment will require the state to subsidize abortions with public funds. Litigation to resolve those and other uncertainties will result in additional costs to the state government and state courts that will negatively impact the state budget. An increase in abortions may negatively affect the growth of state and local revenues over time. Because the fiscal impact of increased abortions on state and local revenues and costs cannot be estimated with precision, the total impact of the proposed amendment is indeterminate.”
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Abortion amendment supporters call ballot statement a 'dirty trick' (Original Post) In It to Win It Jul 2024 OP
Typical. rzemanfl Jul 2024 #1
Nothing about the economic impact of a large number of unplanned pregnancies leading to unwanted children.. Geechie Jul 2024 #2
Gov and legislature didn't mind when public funds were used to transport immigrants from allegorical oracle Jul 2024 #6
I missed that - how did they change the law retroactively? Geechie Jul 2024 #7
not a problem tmars505 Jul 2024 #3
they can't win on the issue alone.. dirty tricks necessary BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2024 #4
Like the felon voter issue. Passed, so legislature had to amend it to include a pay-back for their allegorical oracle Jul 2024 #5

Geechie

(928 posts)
2. Nothing about the economic impact of a large number of unplanned pregnancies leading to unwanted children..
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 05:14 PM
Jul 2024

Especially among lower economic classes - which are hit hardest with the risk anyway:
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/class_gaps_unintended_pregnancy_release.pdf]

Societal costs of unwanted children are incalculable.

allegorical oracle

(3,052 posts)
6. Gov and legislature didn't mind when public funds were used to transport immigrants from
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 01:14 PM
Jul 2024

states other than Florida to other states. When the legislature learned it was illegal, they retroactively changed the law so the gov wouldn't run into any legal problems. Corruption abounds.

Geechie

(928 posts)
7. I missed that - how did they change the law retroactively?
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:34 PM
Jul 2024

I knew they were corrupt, but this is next level.

tmars505

(7 posts)
3. not a problem
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 06:45 PM
Jul 2024

it's not even going to be close. People really don't like their rights taken away. Plus the statement is too long and complex that few will even bother reading it.
One other thing. the magats already lost the election, and are only making it worse for themselves.

allegorical oracle

(3,052 posts)
5. Like the felon voter issue. Passed, so legislature had to amend it to include a pay-back for their
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 01:08 PM
Jul 2024

incarceration.

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