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SYFROYH

(34,201 posts) Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:49 AM Mar 2023

AJC/GPB:What do the proposed Georgia prosecutor oversight bills do? An explainer

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ETA: A DUer questions the motives and politics of the analyst of this piece.

The article is a good read. Still there is probably a lot of opportunity for allegations of misconduct to be cover for MAGA politics.

Clarifying prosecutors’ duties
The House version of the proposal would add sections to the state laws outlining duties of a district attorney and solicitor general that explicitly requires them to “review every individual case for which probable cause for prosecution exists, and make a prosecutorial decision available under the law based on the facts and circumstances of each individual case.”

Creating an oversight commission
It would include one five-member panel that investigates allegations made against prosecutors and a three-member panel that would conduct hearings on any charges filed by the investigative panel, issue disciplinary orders, standards and advisory opinions regarding the grounds for disciplining prosecutors.

What would cause a prosecutor to face discipline?
A key difference between the Democratic proposal from three years ago to now is the addition of specific reasons prosecutors could be disciplined or removed from office.

Under the Republican proposals, that includes:

“mental or physical incapacity interfering with the performance of his or her duties which is, or is likely to become, permanent,”
willful misconduct in office,
“willful and persistent failure to carry out duties,”
conviction of a crime involving moral turpitude,
“conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice which brings the office into disrepute”
or allowing a staff member to do any of the aforementioned things.

https://www.gpb.org/news/2023/03/10/what-do-the-proposed-georgia-prosecutor-oversight-bills-do-explainer?utm_source=GA+Today+Newsletter&utm_campaign=3adf1d319a-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2022_08_04_04_27_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c2024aa7e2-3adf1d319a-1412945147

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AJC/GPB:What do the proposed Georgia prosecutor oversight bills do? An explainer (Original Post) SYFROYH Mar 2023 OP

What kind of source is this? gab13by13 Mar 2023 #1

Well I'm certainly going to trust the analysis of an internet rando AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #2

So why not explain your support? gab13by13 Mar 2023 #3

Or you could explain why you don't trust reporting on the groubd AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #4

You are backing a Magat who compares this Georgia bill to gab13by13 Mar 2023 #6

So you have nothing but namecalling AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #8

You bet, Stephen Fowler is a Magat, gab13by13 Mar 2023 #9

Still waiting for proof that a respected NPR reporter is a MAGAT... AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #11

The Magat who wrote the article is a big time proponent of the Magat bill. gab13by13 Mar 2023 #5

Crickets, gab13by13 Mar 2023 #7

Pardon me, I was working. SYFROYH Mar 2023 #10

There is no evidence provided about Fowler's politics AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #12

Wow, sounds like a personal attack, gab13by13 Mar 2023 #13

You have said anyone who supports Garland is a MAGAT AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #15

Wow, that is over the line. gab13by13 Mar 2023 #16

It is over the line to call DUers who support Garland MAGATs AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2023 #19

Forget about Fowler, gab13by13 Mar 2023 #14

I provided it as it might be interesting to readers of the GA group. SYFROYH Mar 2023 #18

My last post, gab13by13 Mar 2023 #17

gab13by13

(24,643 posts)

1. What kind of source is this?

Reply to SYFROYH (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:04 AM

Mar 2023

Let me explain what it does in one sentence. This bill destroys Georgia's independent judiciary.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,529 posts)

2. Well I'm certainly going to trust the analysis of an internet rando

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:15 AM

Mar 2023

Over the newspaper of record actually covering the story.

gab13by13

(24,643 posts)

3. So why not explain your support?

Reply to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:27 AM

Mar 2023

You obviously disagree with my opinion, or should I say you disagree with me, You haven't given an opinion other than backing some newspaper.

I stand by my statement, that bill will destroy Georgia's independent judiciary and I have seen zero opinions to persuade me otherwise.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,529 posts)

4. Or you could explain why you don't trust reporting on the groubd

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:38 AM

Mar 2023

gab13by13

(24,643 posts)

6. You are backing a Magat who compares this Georgia bill to

Reply to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:50 AM

Mar 2023

other similar Democratic bills. Even discussing this horrible bill gives it credence. This bill destroys separation of powers, destroys an independent judiciary, will be a blueprint for other Magat controlled states to pass.

Why won't you condemn this bill? Amazing, one of the worst bills I have seen in my 75 years.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,529 posts)

8. So you have nothing but namecalling

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 10:03 AM

Mar 2023

I was waiting for you to pull the MAGAT line. You've been calling anyone who disagrees with you a Trumper for months now.

gab13by13

(24,643 posts)

9. You bet, Stephen Fowler is a Magat,

Reply to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 10:16 AM

Mar 2023

I don't consider that name calling since the Republican party no longer exists.

You disagree with my opinion on the horrible Georgia bill? Amazing.

I never name call anyone here, I gave my opinion on the issue, you, have not. Are you afraid to agree with my opinion? Why?

I would have no problem agreeing with any specific opinion you have.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,529 posts)

11. Still waiting for proof that a respected NPR reporter is a MAGAT...

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 10:39 AM

Mar 2023

I'm sure you have some, why else would you post such a thing? But sharing a link to Twitter doesn't provide proof. Until then, I'll take your assertions and sealioning with as much salt as necessary.

gab13by13

(24,643 posts)

5. The Magat who wrote the article is a big time proponent of the Magat bill.

Reply to SYFROYH (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:47 AM

Mar 2023

Look at what he writes on twitter;

https://twitter.com/stphnfwlr

gab13by13

(24,643 posts)

7. Crickets,

Reply to SYFROYH (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:57 AM

Mar 2023

This is not a good thread, but leave it up for all to see.

SYFROYH

(34,201 posts)

10. Pardon me, I was working.

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 10:37 AM

Mar 2023

The source as you can see was Georgia Public Broadcasting and I usually don't question them.
I pulled it from a link from the AJC.

I don't know Steve Fowler, but I'll leave it up with a note to consider the source.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,529 posts)

12. There is no evidence provided about Fowler's politics

Reply to SYFROYH (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 10:39 AM

Mar 2023

The poster just considers anyone who disagrees with them to be a MAGAT.

gab13by13

(24,643 posts)

13. Wow, sounds like a personal attack,

Reply to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:09 AM

Mar 2023

The writer of the link, Fowler, the article in the newspaper, is defending the horrible Georgia anti-separation of powers law. His opinion is a Magat opinion, I really don't care how he is registered to vote, he is pushing a right wing talking point. I quit calling Republicans, conservatives, 40 years ago, the Republican party ended with Trump, I choose to call it the Magat party and I really am not ashamed of doing that, sorry if it offends anyone.

I do not call anyone who disagrees with me a Magat only people who push Magat talking points. I have never called you a Magat and I have disagreed with your opinions many times.

I have no idea whet your opinion is re: the Georgia law.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,529 posts)

15. You have said anyone who supports Garland is a MAGAT

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:22 AM

Mar 2023

I support Garland, so you think I’m a MAGAT.
That sounds like a personal attack to me.

gab13by13

(24,643 posts)

16. Wow, that is over the line.

Reply to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:34 AM

Mar 2023

I suggest a ? after MAGAT.

I already posted that I don't think you are a Magat, did you not read my post? You are digging a big hole.

I support Garland, but he has a record that he can be judged on. Only one man lived and never did wrong. Garland made a fantastic decision to give the Trump investigation to Jack Smith.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,529 posts)

19. It is over the line to call DUers who support Garland MAGATs

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:48 AM

Mar 2023

Hasn’t stopped you.

gab13by13

(24,643 posts)

14. Forget about Fowler,

Reply to SYFROYH (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:15 AM

Mar 2023

what was your reason to post this thread? Was it to debate the merits of this terrible law, I hope not. Do you agree with Fowler, I hope not? What is your opinion of the new Georgia law?

When I post a link I make sure to let people know whether I am for or against what I am linking, I have no idea why you posted what you did.

SYFROYH

(34,201 posts)

18. I provided it as it might be interesting to readers of the GA group.

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:40 AM

Mar 2023

I welcomed having someone explain the bills in context.

If you think it is a terrible law, perhaps you can explain why. If it is unconstitutional, is that based on separation of powers? If not why not.

gab13by13

(24,643 posts)

17. My last post,

Reply to SYFROYH (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:36 AM

Mar 2023

the new Georgia law is unconstitutional and we should not give that horrible law any credence by debating it. Hopefully our Supreme Court will find it unconstitutional.

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