Illinois

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts) Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:06 AM Oct 2014

Durbin Oberwurst Debate

(Disclaimer- I know and like Dick Durbin. The only time I have found major fault with him was when he caved into pressure when he was complaining about torture committed by the CIA and US troops. If he had stood tall, perhaps some of the worst parts of the Cheney Bush Admin could have been reversed or slowed)

Dick is one smart, knowledgable, and professional person. Any state would be lucky to have him.

Oberwurst? I'll bet he doesn't even know how to milk a cow. Once he inherited his family fortune in milk and ice cream, I doubt that he even knew which end of the cow to milk.

Oberwurst came out fighting, but mostly he seemed to be trying to explain why he had no answer, while Durbin was directly answering tough questions, with well thought out explanations.

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Durbin Oberwurst Debate (Original Post) ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2014 OP

I don't think rauner's coattails are long enough for mucifer Oct 2014 #1

Yeah, I saw that ad frazzled Oct 2014 #2

But every major paper endorsed Bush as well...so there is that... truebrit71 Oct 2014 #3

Hoping Durbin's coattails are long enough for Quinn... Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2014 #7

I know several people who voted for Obama who are going to vote rauner mucifer Oct 2014 #8

Except those of us that read the Chicago Sun-Times faithfully know Stellar Nov 2014 #14

Jim Oberweis is a total fucking lightweight... truebrit71 Oct 2014 #4

Are you aware that Judy Barr Topinka loathes the man? Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #5

He is not well liked pretty much anywhere he goes... truebrit71 Oct 2014 #6

On separate occasions, Rochester Oct 2014 #9

What struck you most about the ice cream vendor? ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2014 #10

He's pretty good at chess. Rochester Oct 2014 #11

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #12

Heh, never knew gun boats were used for trolling. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2014 #13

mucifer

(24,838 posts)

1. I don't think rauner's coattails are long enough for

Reply to ChairmanAgnostic (Original post)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:13 AM

Oct 2014

olberweiss to get anywhere. I do think we will have a new governor soon. The "every major paper endorses me" ad is brutal.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)

2. Yeah, I saw that ad

Reply to mucifer (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:19 AM

Oct 2014

It really, really hurts.

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)

3. But every major paper endorsed Bush as well...so there is that...

Reply to mucifer (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:45 AM

Oct 2014

I still think that Pat Quinn will be our future governor, he just has to keep hitting Mitt Rauner where it hurts...the fact that he is an unethical, lying manipulative scumbag..

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)

7. Hoping Durbin's coattails are long enough for Quinn...

Reply to mucifer (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 24, 2014, 09:19 AM

Oct 2014

mucifer

(24,838 posts)

8. I know several people who voted for Obama who are going to vote rauner

Reply to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 24, 2014, 09:21 AM

Oct 2014

and I'm in Chicago. I have a very bad feeling about the governor's race. Also have to consider that rauner is getting a decent percentage of the black vote in Chicago.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)

14. Except those of us that read the Chicago Sun-Times faithfully know

Reply to mucifer (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:39 AM

Nov 2014

Rauner bought their support...the times is in deep financial trouble.

This was all Quinn won in 2010. All he has to do is repeat it.

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2010&fips=17&f=0&off=5&elect=0

In fact, all he has to do is get big numbers in Cook County again, and he'd win.

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)

4. Jim Oberweis is a total fucking lightweight...

Reply to ChairmanAgnostic (Original post)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:55 AM

Oct 2014

...his political opinion sways whichever way the right-wing breeze blows...he was pro-choice until he was attacked for that, now he's a Tea-publican...he will do and say whatever he thinks will get him elected...and at the end of the day he's doing this for his own ego and nothing else...

He didn't inherit the milk business, he paid his uncle for it...and yes, you're probably right he wouldn't know the business of a cow if it came up and crapped on him...

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)

5. Are you aware that Judy Barr Topinka loathes the man?

Reply to truebrit71 (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:49 PM

Oct 2014

When Jim Ryan quit the U.S. Senate race in 2004, Oberweis, who had come in second in the Republican primary, expected to be put up in his place. However, Topinka said essentially, "Over my dead body." Since she was the head of the Illinois Republican Party at the time, she got her way. Oberweis loves her as much as she loves him.

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)

6. He is not well liked pretty much anywhere he goes...

Reply to Fortinbras Armstrong (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:57 PM

Oct 2014

...for crying out loud how many times did he run for various offices before finally winning one as a state senator, three, four? It was getting so laughable that the joke was he couldn't even get elected as Town Dog Catcher in North Aurora...

There's no way he beats Dick Durbin in November...no way at all...