Illinois

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts) Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:05 PM Mar 2020

IL. Primary: What happens if you vote for one candidate but another candidate's pledged delegates?

For instance, you vote for Biden himself but you also vote for Warren's 5 delegates instead of Biden's.

I didn't do that today, but I've wondered for some time what that does to the delegate tally.
I asked on an 'Illinois for Warren' board but no one could come up with a confident answer.

Thanks.
Gidney N(o math for me, please, I was a Comm major) Cloyd

12 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

IL. Primary: What happens if you vote for one candidate but another candidate's pledged delegates? (Original Post) Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2020 OP

You were supposed to vote for 5? I only voted for 1. Ha! Beakybird Mar 2020 #1

We were supposed to vote for 8 frazzled Mar 2020 #3

It's 5-- I double checked my sample ballot and my real one wasn't flagged for an undervote. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2020 #5

Maybe it's a different number to vote for depending on size of frazzled Mar 2020 #6

I'd bet that you're right. IL gets a total of 155 pledged delegates and 29 superdelegates. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2020 #8

No more than three on my ballot. Midnight Writer Mar 2020 #9

I asked that before frazzled Mar 2020 #2

One delegate told me that the delegates are pledged to vote guillaumeb Mar 2020 #4

They're still pledged even if their candidate dropped out? Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2020 #7

Agreed, there could be a situation. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #10

I'm beginning to think we're not supposed to know the answer to this. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2020 #11

What happens is this blue-wave Mar 2020 #12

Beakybird

(3,395 posts)

1. You were supposed to vote for 5? I only voted for 1. Ha!

Reply to Gidney N Cloyd (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:08 PM

Mar 2020

I was thinking of doing the same as I was originally a Warren supporter.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)

3. We were supposed to vote for 8

Reply to Beakybird (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:10 PM

Mar 2020

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)

5. It's 5-- I double checked my sample ballot and my real one wasn't flagged for an undervote.

Reply to Beakybird (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:12 PM

Mar 2020

I almost missed that on the Metropolitan Water Rec District myself (I'd only marked one on the sample ballot)

frazzled

(18,402 posts)

6. Maybe it's a different number to vote for depending on size of

Reply to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:16 PM

Mar 2020

your Congressional district. My ballot definitely said vote for no more than 8.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)

8. I'd bet that you're right. IL gets a total of 155 pledged delegates and 29 superdelegates.

Reply to frazzled (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:21 PM

Mar 2020

Midnight Writer

(23,062 posts)

9. No more than three on my ballot.

Reply to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:36 PM

Mar 2020

frazzled

(18,402 posts)

2. I asked that before

Reply to Gidney N Cloyd (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:10 PM

Mar 2020

And there were no answers, just misunderstanding the question because most states don’t vote separately for delegates, or saying that wouldn’t happen (I bet it does).

Still want to know.

Just asked spouse, who said he wasn’t sure but thinks the delegate votes would override presidential one. You’re sending them to the convention. He could be right, or not!

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

4. One delegate told me that the delegates are pledged to vote

Reply to Gidney N Cloyd (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:10 PM

Mar 2020

for their candidate first. After that, they can switch.

I voted for 6, the maximum.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)

7. They're still pledged even if their candidate dropped out?

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:18 PM

Mar 2020

And if I'd voted for Biden but picked Bernie's 5 candidates (assuming he rides it to the end) that seems like an even messier problem. If Biden won ILL by a hair's breadth but a few people did what I described and Bernie's delegates got slightly more votes than Bernie himself did...

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

10. Agreed, there could be a situation.

Reply to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:54 PM

Mar 2020

My guess is that the hope is that a voter will pick a candidate and also that candidate's pledged delegates.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)

11. I'm beginning to think we're not supposed to know the answer to this.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:11 PM

Mar 2020

And maybe I'm asking too many questions.

blue-wave

(4,488 posts)

12. What happens is this

Reply to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 20, 2020, 01:46 AM

Mar 2020

The winner of the statewide race wins a certain percentage of the delegates. I don't know that number for Illinois.

Then, if you vote for another candidates' listed delegates they can, if they win the most votes, become a delegate for said candidate. So if it said to vote for 8 delegates and you voted for only for 5 because those 5 were the only Warren delegates listed, then if those 5 are in the top 8 for total votes, they will go to the convention as Warren delegates. These delegates are voted on in each respective congressional district. Also, if it told you to vote for 8 and their were only 5 for Warren listed, that means that the Warren campaign was only able to recruit 5 people to run for delegate in that particular congressional district. This would mean that 3 delegates from other candidates would be in the top 8 and go to the convention.

It's slightly complicated. I hope I helped.

Reply to this discussion