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murielm99

(31,438 posts)
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:10 PM Mar 2014

Rauner??? Are you kidding me? Rauner?

Do we want to send another governor to jail? I know it is traditional here, but really. The guy is already a crook.

Why bother to inaugurate him if he wins? Just put him in jail. Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not spend $200 million dollars on court costs, lawyers' fees, or ink, or Internet advertising. Just put him in jail and save the state a lot of time and money.

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Rauner??? Are you kidding me? Rauner? (Original Post) murielm99 Mar 2014 OP
but but his ads promised to take on big unions and promote charter schools too...hates big lunasun Mar 2014 #1
The Election Was Close - He Squeaked Out The Win..... global1 Mar 2014 #2
The Illinois Education Association murielm99 Mar 2014 #3
I got the same call... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #4
It Was Difficult For Me To Do As Well - But I Bit The Bullet.... global1 Mar 2014 #5
as much as it pained me, I did the same. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2014 #11
Dillard is anti choice and would repeal gay marriage in ILL - Why why would I vote for him??? lunasun Mar 2014 #12
The Way It Was Explained To Me Was.... global1 Mar 2014 #14
I got a better idea Rochester Mar 2014 #6
That's my idea, too ... but we can't just wish it frazzled Mar 2014 #9
I want to know how Rincewind Mar 2014 #7
Quinn actually worked to get term limits on the ballot in the 90's so that is why he lunasun Mar 2014 #13
He might act like Walker, Drale Mar 2014 #20
It's very scary. Quinn is very unpopular. mucifer Mar 2014 #8
a good deal of that is due to the mess Bloggo left us. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2014 #10
Like Obama it has been upstream for him . For those who make him lunasun Mar 2014 #15
That's a great point. Hope they make it a talking point. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2014 #21
Quinn also saved all of the natural gas rate payers in Illinois from lots of heartache waddirum Apr 2014 #29
Quinn Always Struck Me As An Honest And Sincere Man.... global1 Mar 2014 #16
Me too...he's the 'anti-Blago' if you will... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #17
I worked for him as a subcontractor a short time and he was IMO 'a good guy" . Long time ago lunasun Mar 2014 #18
he's not. olkaz Mar 2014 #19
Want to elaborate on that? Because I think Global1's impression is pretty common (and I share it). Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2014 #22
Maybe it's better in the end that he is the opponent frazzled Mar 2014 #23
I crossed over and voted for *shudder* Dillard. ColesCountyDem Mar 2014 #24
My sister thinks that Rauner is a moderate! greatauntoftriplets Mar 2014 #25
Of course she does... raising2moredems Mar 2014 #26
Unfortunately, my sister is not pro-choice. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2014 #27
And likely to stay home raising2moredems Mar 2014 #28
So do both of my brothers who voted for Obama and will vote for rauner. mucifer May 2014 #32
Bruce Rauner is a rude, presumptuous, condescending phoney. raging moderate May 2014 #30
I am already sick of seeing his commercials every half hour. City Lights May 2014 #31

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
1. but but his ads promised to take on big unions and promote charter schools too...hates big
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:24 PM
Mar 2014

government but made his millions off government deals.
I am afraid of a Walker clone in charge in IL

global1

(25,922 posts)
2. The Election Was Close - He Squeaked Out The Win.....
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:29 PM
Mar 2014

unions in Illinois were encouraging their people to cross over and vote for Dillard - and he almost won it. Even I took a Repub ballot so that I could put in a vote for Dillard over Rauner. I just don't trust this guy. He's slick in a slimy sort of way and says the right things that push people's buttons - but - they're all lies - because - we all know if he does win and he becomes Governor - he won't do any of those things that would have gotten him elected.

murielm99

(31,438 posts)
3. The Illinois Education Association
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:44 PM
Mar 2014

called me and encouraged me to pull a repubbie ballot. I could not do it.

My son did. I guess he felt he had to.

3catwoman3

(25,453 posts)
4. I got the same call...
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 12:02 AM
Mar 2014

...and like you, just could not do it. My husband did. Someone I know thru our county Dem organization teased us about having a mixed marriage. Next time I see that person, I will have to tell him my husband was supporting the strategy recommended by the IEA, and that he is a true blue as I am.

global1

(25,922 posts)
5. It Was Difficult For Me To Do As Well - But I Bit The Bullet....
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 12:05 AM
Mar 2014

besides I thought it would give the Repubs a false sense of security in thinking that they had gained members in their party. It also gave me a chance to vote against Oberweiss as well. It was a twofer - Rauner and Oberweiss. Unfortunately because of their money and name recognition - they both won their races.

So it will be Rauner against Quinn and Oberweiss against Durbin.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
12. Dillard is anti choice and would repeal gay marriage in ILL - Why why would I vote for him???
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 09:16 AM
Mar 2014

Local dem group here said show your support for dems even if not contested in the primary and vote but vote dem
In August, Dillard led 11 legislators of both parties in an amicus brief to a motion filed by the conservative Thomas More Society. The Society sought to dismiss a lawsuit against Illinois’s gay marriage ban filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and the Lambda Legal Defense Fund.

According to a press release from the Thomas More Society:

The legislators assert that the judicial branch should not rewrite the state’s marriage laws, stating that “to do so would be to place the court in a position of acting as a super-legislature, nullifying laws it does not like. That is not our proper role in a democratic society.” They also argue that such action would “dramatically interfere with the constitutional guarantee of separation of powers by which the general assembly is empowered to make public policy….”

The legislators also cite several sociological arguments stating that “… the marriage structure that helps children the most is a family headed by two biological parents ….” The legislators also supported the religious liberty concerns raised by the amicus brief, also filed this week by the Catholic Conference of Illinois, and the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod also filed this week, who urged that “of great concern to us is hostility that may be shown to Illinois’ religious minorities” who oppose same-sex marriage.


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Kirk-Dillard-Says-You-Can-Take-Your-Gay-Marriage-And-Stuff-It-Up-Your-178127441.html#ixzz2wPz9bp00

global1

(25,922 posts)
14. The Way It Was Explained To Me Was....
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 09:30 AM
Mar 2014

that Rauner would be a more formidable opponent to Quinn in the actual election. This was a primary and if Dillard would have won the Repub primary - he would be a weaker candidate against Quinn and Quinn would win handily. So crossing over to get a Repub ballot was just a tactic to create an easier path for Quinn in the actual election for Governor.

I hear what you are saying about Dillard - but that would have been cancelled out with a win by Quinn in the election for Governor.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. That's my idea, too ... but we can't just wish it
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 08:28 AM
Mar 2014

We have to sign up to work for the campaign, and if you can't do that, donate some bucks, etc.

Rincewind

(1,267 posts)
7. I want to know how
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 01:47 AM
Mar 2014

he's going to enact term limits, since that would require changing the State Constitution. Of course, in his commercials he bragged about having absolutely no relevant experience in how to run the State.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
13. Quinn actually worked to get term limits on the ballot in the 90's so that is why he
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 09:19 AM
Mar 2014

can say in ads "Quinn failed to deliver term limits"
R's would love a con con in Il now that it is dem and strong and Walker this state

Drale

(7,932 posts)
20. He might act like Walker,
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 05:47 PM
Mar 2014

but he would not have the House or the Senate doing everything he tells them too so nothing will get done.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
10. a good deal of that is due to the mess Bloggo left us.
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 08:42 AM
Mar 2014

Quinn has actually done a not bad job, considering the almost infinite load of crap he faced. The dem leadership in both houses did not help much, to their shame.

Another problem is that a stale kumquat has a more vibrant and powerful personality than Quinn. He could put a roomful of funeral directors to sleep without lifting an eyebrow. But he appears to be honest and above board.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
15. Like Obama it has been upstream for him . For those who make him
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 09:31 AM
Mar 2014

unpopular ask them where they think their utility bill would be $$ wise without CUB

Quinn was instrumental in the creation of the "Citizens Utility Board", a consumer watchdog organization when Comed/ATT/GASco was sticking it to residents.without any push back
Pat Quinn's referendum grew into the State's largest consumer group, saving consumers $10 billion. $10 billion.
A lot of people only think of $$ - so mentioning the savings he gave them over the years may help

waddirum

(991 posts)
29. Quinn also saved all of the natural gas rate payers in Illinois from lots of heartache
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:04 AM
Apr 2014

by vetoing the misguided bill that would have required the gas companies to buy gas from two proposed coal gasification plants.

global1

(25,922 posts)
16. Quinn Always Struck Me As An Honest And Sincere Man....
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 09:35 AM
Mar 2014

even when he was the Lt. Gov under Blago - he was the one that impressed vs Blago.

I trust Quinn to do the right thing under tremendous stress that Blago left this State in. I do not trust Rauner at all.

He would be another notch in the Repub Parties gun - to take over the states on that local level. He has to be stopped.

I said in another post that Rauner is slick in a slimy sort of way. He will be bad for the State of Illinois and anything uttered from his mouth on the road to this election will be the kind of things that might play well with the public and get him elected - only to be ignored once he would step into office.

IMHO - it is important to make sure that Rauner doesn't win.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
17. Me too...he's the 'anti-Blago' if you will...
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 09:44 AM
Mar 2014

...The idea of Rauner anywhere close to the Statehouse worries me, and we MUST make sure that the Gov is re-elected, the only thing that provides any solace is that the solidly Dem-majority would keep him in check...and if he thinks he has a snowballs chance in hell of enacting term limits I have a nursing home to sell him...

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
18. I worked for him as a subcontractor a short time and he was IMO 'a good guy" . Long time ago
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 10:41 AM
Mar 2014

so who knows now though
. Wasn't a machine guy archetype either but he could use it this time around against R's/teapac $

This>>IMHO - it is important to make sure that Rauner doesn't win.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
23. Maybe it's better in the end that he is the opponent
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:21 PM
Mar 2014

Reflecting on it after a day or two, it seems to me that we should prefer to have this retrograde kazillionnaire with foot-in-mouth disease rather than a more moderate Republican, like Dillard. It will give a clearer choice; and the rather populist sentiment of the electorate right now will hopefully not take well to his one-percent status and his extreme positions.

ColesCountyDem

(6,944 posts)
24. I crossed over and voted for *shudder* Dillard.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 06:53 AM
Mar 2014

I have ALWAYS liked, supported and worked my *ss of for Pat Quinn, and I will do so again this fall. We had ONE contested race in my heavily Democratic, downstate county (one of the few in Illinois), and both candidates were friends, co-workers in the office, well-qualified and facing no Republican opposition in November.

Both my precinct committeeman and my county chairman were, at WORST, 'ambivalent' about the many reliable Democrats (like myself) who were contemplating pulling a Republican primary ballot in order to stop Rauner. Most of us who were considering doing so were doing so with the thought that, God forbid, should disaster befall Pat Quinn in November's election, who on the Republican side of the ballot would have the lowest 'puke factor' as Governor. That decision was a 'no brainer'-- Dillard.

There are tons of reasons why Dillard will not get my vote in November, and most of them have been listed here, but my decision rested solely on my judgment about which member of the Republican 'pack' was not a rabid, slathering, blood-thirsty, disaster-waiting-to-happen monster.

raising2moredems

(706 posts)
26. Of course she does...
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:54 PM
Mar 2014

He's pro-choice and while not all-in for gay marriage, is okay with civil unions. In other words, he's not a "real" republican. Her mindset is what got Blago elected.

He is a crook and I have to give the Chicago Tribune credit. They ran an article on the sleaze. Shot down his aw-shucks $18 watch and provided decent detail about GCTR and how it screwed Detroit. And just like so many others (Romney), it wasn't Rauner. It was someone else in the company and BTW, we were "out of the day to day" by then.

Even Sweeney of the Rockford paper reminded folks Rauner is mega-rich and just putting on an act in his ads. If the folks in So IL think they are getting crumbs in today's environment, they'll have no crumbs if Rauner gets in. Which I just don't see happening.

I did not cross over - I too got calls to vote for Dillard. I dislike him, he is part of the group that continually runs for offices in IL. Tops on my list was voting for a dem for sheriff who could beat the boy-mayor's (morrissey) pick for county sheriff. And to keep the two pukes-running-as-dems from winning that primary. BTW, both pukes-running-as-dems got their a$$ kicked.

raising2moredems

(706 posts)
28. And likely to stay home
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 09:50 PM
Mar 2014

Remember when Judy Baar-Topinka ran against Blago? She is a social liberal and plenty of pukes refused to vote for her. In my neck of the woods, the pukes are up in arms with rauner being pro-choice. I don't think he can muster up enough moderates to offset the loss of the "base" voters.

raging moderate

(4,502 posts)
30. Bruce Rauner is a rude, presumptuous, condescending phoney.
Tue May 20, 2014, 09:32 AM
May 2014

I had the misfortune of meeting Bruce Rauner last summer while working the Democratic table at a county fair. Bruce Rauner came swooping down on our table, where I was arranging things inside and my co-worker was arranging things outside. With no warning, he suddenly enfolded my co-worker in his arms, looking down mockingly from his 6-ft+ height, rocking the poor man back and forth while crooning, "MMMM, if only I could hold you in my arms like this long enough to make you start thinking the right way." I stared in shock, SO GLAD that there was a large table between us. Apparently unaware that he had just been incredibly RUDE (and, in fact, legally guilty of assault), he then stuck his hand out at me and said jauntily, "I'm Bruce Rauner, and I'm running for Governor as a Republican."
How could this case of overprivileged arrested development fool anybody? Talk about a sense of entitlement! Clearly he has lived his whole life in the fantasy world of IOKIYAR. He reminds me a lot of Mitt Romney (and that character Michael, the socially clumsy office manager on that comedy show The Office). I really think the Democratic organization should just have people follow Rauner around with hidden videocams. They will certainly capture many moments like this one. Clearly, Rauner had NO IDEA that he had done anything wrong.

City Lights

(25,317 posts)
31. I am already sick of seeing his commercials every half hour.
Fri May 23, 2014, 07:56 AM
May 2014

Especially the ones where Democrats are endorsing him. Turns my stomach.

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