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progressoid

(50,743 posts)
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 02:22 PM Feb 2022

Bible's Rape, Incest Passages Read at Book Banning Senate Hearing - Iowa Starting Line

Passages from a number of books that could be considered “obscene” under an enhanced legal definition of the word were read during a Thursday Iowa Senate subcommittee hearing, including an excerpt from the Bible.

Keenan Crow, director of policy and advocacy for One Iowa Action, read the Old Testament story of Lot and his daughters during the hearing. The passage came from Genesis 19 in which Lot’s two daughters get him drunk on wine so they can sleep with him without his consent to keep their family lineage going.

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The hearing was over SF 2198, a bill introduced by Iowa Senate President Jake Chapman (R-Adel) who has led the charge on book-banning and finding ways to prosecute Iowa educators who don’t agree with his definition of obscenity.

Chapman’s wide-ranging bill covers everything from civil litigation to how long a teacher should be placed in jail for assigning certain books to stripping county attorneys of legal immunity for not acting on obscene material cases in a timely manner.

It also punishes teachers and administrators for assigning reading materials considered obscene, which is used interchangeably by Chapman with “hardcore pornography” in the bill.

more...https://iowastartingline.com/2022/02/12/bibles-rape-incest-passages-read-at-book-banning-senate-hearing/
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Bible's Rape, Incest Passages Read at Book Banning Senate Hearing - Iowa Starting Line (Original Post) progressoid Feb 2022 OP
So are they bringing back Bowdlerized Shakespear? TrogL Feb 2022 #1
It starts even earlier than Lot dickthegrouch Feb 2022 #2
According to Bishop Ussher about 6000 years ago. Tommymac Feb 2022 #3
If Eve wanted grandchildren badly enough IronLionZion Feb 2022 #6
Trump's favorite Bible story IronLionZion Feb 2022 #4
Chapman is obviously either a rapist, pervert or KPN Feb 2022 #5
So what is Chapman projecting ? rickford66 Feb 2022 #7
I trust they didn't omit Tamar. soldierant Feb 2022 #8
I never believed the story of Lot. yellerpup Feb 2022 #9
These kinds of laws lead to one thing --- dead kids. 70sEraVet Feb 2022 #10
No telling what that talking snake got away with. czarjak Feb 2022 #11
There is a very religious college in the greater Chicago area - Wheaton College. 3catwoman3 Feb 2022 #12

TrogL

(32,825 posts)
1. So are they bringing back Bowdlerized Shakespear?
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 02:37 PM
Feb 2022

We were using them in school. I caused an uproar by bringing in the originals.

dickthegrouch

(3,547 posts)
2. It starts even earlier than Lot
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 03:02 PM
Feb 2022

Adam and Eve created two boys!
When did the incest start? To create human #5?

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
3. According to Bishop Ussher about 6000 years ago.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 04:39 PM
Feb 2022

I guess Cain and Abel were Mama's boys.

Yes, I said it.



KPN

(16,101 posts)
5. Chapman is obviously either a rapist, pervert or
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 04:49 PM
Feb 2022

pedophile. Seems like there’s enough track record among extreme right winger evangelicals to make that correlation.

yellerpup

(12,263 posts)
9. I never believed the story of Lot.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 05:03 PM
Feb 2022

Hard to imagine two virgin girls so worried about the family lineage that they scheme to get their father drunk and seduce him together. Much easier to imagine that it was probably his idea.

70sEraVet

(4,142 posts)
10. These kinds of laws lead to one thing --- dead kids.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 05:36 PM
Feb 2022

Pulling books from the libraries that help troubled kids feel that they're not alone, that help them cope with a society that excludes them, will only lead to more suicides. The suicide rate among teenagers has already been on the rise.

https://www.prb.org/resources/suicide-replaces-homicide-as-second-leading-cause-of-death-among-u-s-teenagers/

3catwoman3

(25,430 posts)
12. There is a very religious college in the greater Chicago area - Wheaton College.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:10 PM
Feb 2022

The "about Wheaton" section of their website is rather interesting. Throughout, it is made abundantly clear that everything about the school is done to glorify Jesus.

The second section of their menu page contains, among other things, this statement:

WE BELIEVE that God directly created Adam and Eve, the historical parents of the entire human race; and that they were created in His own image, distinct from all other living creatures, and in a state of original righteousness.
(Emphasis mine)

Wheaton has a pretty extensive biology/health sciences major. I would love to sit in on one of their biology classes and ask the professor to explain how Adam and Eve gave rise to the whole human race without committing incest. If they had a daughter, either Adam or one of the sons would have had to impregnate that daughter in order for her to give birth to more humans. If no daughters, Eve would have been the only human with a uterus.

It would be damn interesting to listen to whatever "pretzel-y" explanation would be offered.

Wheaton is in the same athletic conference as the college both our sons attended, and were their most despised rival. Our sons played soccer. The Wheaton players used to piss me off by embellishing on the field, trying to draw fouls for minimal contact - drop to the pitch and roll around as if in agony. One time, I shouted, "Are you guys all drama majors?" It seems to me that faking the degree of contact rather flies in the face of the "Thou shalt not bear false witness" commandment.

Hypocrisy, thy name is evangelicalism.

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