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Related: About this forumKU is eliminating its humanities department. To say this is a punch to the gut is an understatement.
Kevin M. Kruse RetweetedDear reporters, PLEASE ask HOW these cuts will save funds. Will they lay off faculty & staff? Because overhead isnt gonna get them to these numbers
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KU is eliminating its humanities department. To say this is a punch to the gut is an understatement. Higher ed in America is broken, and non-STEM education in particular is in serious trouble.
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MuseRider
(34,401 posts)don't you think?
I am a graduate of a smaller university and we had and have humanities. It is a state full of culture, is multi cultured even if it is filled with asshole republicans.
PJMcK
(22,998 posts)Republicans have ruined the state. That's all I meant.
MuseRider
(34,401 posts)Unless you or someone you know well live in a place all you know is what makes the news. We rarely make the news except for horrible things because...republicans.
In spite of it all Brownback tried to eliminate all of the humanities from the state. People worked harder to preserve them. Even republicans, the moderate republicans (how they vote is a mystery to me) because they know that our humanities define us in all of our cultures and their glory (or not). We beat it, we beat a governor who tried to rid us of all of those things and we still have a vibrant community in the state.
Thank you. You should know that being a Dem in this state is hard enough. We got pounded when we thought we were good, pounded. They are taking a wrecking ball to us and...AND Brownback is back and his nasty little pal Kobach and there is still one evil Koch brother here who sits in the capitol building when voting occurs. We were their first victims before we even knew about it and we remain a victim of them. We are doomed I fear but the arts will remain, we do it even if there is no pay in it because our souls, just like every liberal state, depend on it.
no_hypocrisy
(49,156 posts)no music, no literature, no art history, no theatre, no philosophy, no languages?
jimfields33
(19,281 posts)SpankMe
(3,305 posts)Red state legislatures are analyzing which academic disciplines attract more liberal students and employ more liberal faculty, and they're eliminating them from their states' universities under the totally innocent "cost cutting" rationale. It's along term strategy to de-liberalize academia.
Then, when money becomes available again, they'll "restore" curricula more friendly to cons, like religious studies, ROTC and the like.
fierywoman
(8,130 posts)Samuel Ramey and Joyce DiDonato, I believe.
MuseRider
(34,401 posts)I have played with many of their staff for years, always top notch. Their students in all parts of music do well. Their jazz department is good, great staff.
dhill926
(16,953 posts)this will also filter down into public school music education. Just awful...
tblue37
(66,041 posts)tblue37
(66,041 posts)MuseRider
(34,401 posts)when I saw this. I did not know you had retired, we rarely speak but I did know that you taught there. This is so darned sad.
tblue37
(66,041 posts)live, many excellent people accepted lower salaries just to stay here. As a consequence, KU has been a better school than one might expect.
mahatmakanejeeves
(61,539 posts)by: The Associated Press
Posted: Feb 18, 2021 / 11:10 AM CST / Updated: Feb 18, 2021 / 11:11 AM CST
LAWRENCE, Kan. (AP) The University of Kansas says it plans to eliminate two undergraduate programs and an entire department in a cost-cutting move.
Provost Barbara Bichelmeyer told the Kansas Board of Regents Wednesday 15 undergraduate programs did not meet enrollment requirements.
The university plans to discontinue its Humanities department. ... It also will eliminate degrees in Humanities and Visual Art Education. ... Six of the remaining underperforming programs will remain, and seven will be merged with other programs.
Bichelmeyer said eliminating the Visual Art Education degree will save about $100,000, and ending the Humanities degree will save about $400,000.
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(58,015 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
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(58,015 posts)MuseRider
(34,401 posts)Even my tiny university has humanities. Otherwise it is not a university?
UpInArms
(51,897 posts)are why we cant have nice things
MyMission
(2,000 posts)I've heard about this trend for years. An adjunct college professor friend in NY mentioned this when explaining that he'd lost some classes due to the changes in curriculum, leading to less enrollment in classes that are no longer required. This was years ago.
Lack of interest, lack of ability (many college freshman have poor language and writing skills), emphasis on "practical" courses have all contributed to this. He was always complaining about the majority of his students who couldn't write a college level essay, or remarking on the few who had superb skills.
exboyfil
(18,029 posts)You might expect something like this at the land grant Kansas State, but I can't imagine KU flushing humanities.
I am 57, and an engineer. I have thought about taking some Humanities focused courses when I retire. I love History and am trying to get a better appreciation of English Literature and Art. I have listened to some Humanities focused audiobooks and watched some Great Courses with more of a focus on Humanities.
I like the idea of bringing together the various disciplines of History, Literature, and Art into a Humanities curriculum.
MichMan
(13,526 posts)Unless you think the university should just raise tuition on everyone else in order to fund these programs.
msongs
(70,268 posts)MuseRider
(34,401 posts)What about the basketball program? How will they be able to pay all of that without everyone else paying huge tuition costs?
We need to revamp it all. I cannot imagine a college degree is worth much these days with so many jobs being low paying how could you ever afford to pay back those loans for the education that really did not help you the way much of life and jobs are set up now?
When I went it was worth every bit of time and effort to get that degree. 5 year Music Ed program, 5 years and I owed nothing when I was done. It was an expensive little University, $16 an hour in 1971. LOL, I cannot imagine that anyone graduates and ever is out from under the fees they charge now. Thankfully both my boys had huge music scholarships, one paid nothing the other paid a bit more than that.