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KS Toronado

(19,698 posts)
Sun May 26, 2024, 08:08 AM May 2024

Pilot parachutes, passengers survive plane crash near Kansas City



BATES COUNTY —A pilot and six passengers survived a small plane crash that occurred just after 1p.m. Saturday near the Butler Memorial Airport, approximately one hour south of Kansas City.

First responders found the single-engine Cessna C206 in a hay field east of the airport runways, according to the Bates County, Missouri Sheriff.

The pilot had been able to parachute from the plane prior to the crash and was located at a hanger at the airport. EMS treated everyone involved at the scene and released them, according to the sheriff's office.

The plane is a total loss. The Bates County Sheriff’s Office is assisting the NTSB and the FAA in their investigations. Authorities released no additional details including the name of the pilot.

https://hayspost.com/posts/103f5560-eee6-4220-a547-a576089ee71d

Wow, if everyone had died the pilot would have had a lot of explaining to do.
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Pilot parachutes, passengers survive plane crash near Kansas City (Original Post) KS Toronado May 2024 OP
The pilot still has a lot of explaining to do. He parachuted out and left everyone to die... brush May 2024 #1
No kidding. Gonna be lawsuits for sure. tanyev May 2024 #3
Sounds more like a Trump supporter. "The hell with everyone else I AM THE ONLY IMPORTANT ONE HERE" . usaf-vet May 2024 #9
He should never get it back. brush May 2024 #10
See #21. Everyone parachuted out; they weren't abandoned. Ocelot II May 2024 #27
Yes, and the person who wrote this mess of an article should bbe taken to task, not the pilot. ShazzieB May 2024 #38
Not to mention the people who assumed from this sketchy report that the pilot was an a-hole Ocelot II May 2024 #39
There should be an investigation. Irish_Dem May 2024 #13
*Everybody* parachuted out of the plane - the article is incomplete and misleading. Ocelot II May 2024 #21
I like the OP story. More my kind of joke - like the airline pilot who died peacefully in his sleep while Wonder Why May 2024 #35
Or maybe just read more? littlemissmartypants May 2024 #37
Thank you! Yikes, that would have been beyond terrifying! Rhiannon12866 May 2024 #40
What a hero,... magicarpet May 2024 #2
See #21. Ocelot II May 2024 #22
So the asshole was wearing his chute or did he take time to put it on while telling his passengers he was bailing? CrispyQ May 2024 #4
See #21. Ocelot II May 2024 #23
I've never even heard of a pilot carrying a parachute on a small plane like that. bluedigger May 2024 #5
It's very common in the glider community. cloudbase May 2024 #8
A Cessna 206 isn't a glider. bluedigger May 2024 #15
They seem to have been skydivers, and they all parachuted out. See #21. Ocelot II May 2024 #24
Did one of the passengers grab the stick after he bailed? getagrip_already May 2024 #6
See #21. Ocelot II May 2024 #25
Sounds like a metaphor for anyone who has abandonment issues. Baitball Blogger May 2024 #7
It sounds like he knew ahead of time the plane was not safe. usaf-vet May 2024 #11
Yes that is what I am thinking too. Irish_Dem May 2024 #12
See #21. Everyone wears a parachute in a skydiving plane, and everyone parachuted out. Ocelot II May 2024 #26
OK that makes sense. The excerpts were a bit misleading. Irish_Dem May 2024 #33
If you know the plane is unsafe you don't fly it at all. Ocelot II May 2024 #30
The C-206 is often used as a jump plane for skydivers. Ocelot II May 2024 #14
This makes the most sense as an explanation. bluedigger May 2024 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Ocelot II May 2024 #17
The crash photo doesn't look like one anyone would walk away from. bluedigger May 2024 #18
It's really hard to tell from the photo if that's the entire plane or just part of it. Ocelot II May 2024 #19
More news here: Everybody parachuted from the plane before it crashed. Ocelot II May 2024 #20
You can tell who are the readers and who are not. Srkdqltr May 2024 #28
It's really easy to jump to wrong conclusions Ocelot II May 2024 #29
Heartily agree... The Unmitigated Gall May 2024 #31
Just got back home KS Toronado May 2024 #36
This is what I read from the ORIGINAL post. usaf-vet May 2024 #32
The original article was misleading in that it was incomplete. Ocelot II May 2024 #34

brush

(58,015 posts)
1. The pilot still has a lot of explaining to do. He parachuted out and left everyone to die...
Sun May 26, 2024, 08:18 AM
May 2024

instead of trying to land the plane. What a jerk.

He's no Sully Sullenberger that's for sure.

tanyev

(44,709 posts)
3. No kidding. Gonna be lawsuits for sure.
Sun May 26, 2024, 08:25 AM
May 2024

Maybe even criminal charges. Was he trying to kill everyone???

usaf-vet

(7,012 posts)
9. Sounds more like a Trump supporter. "The hell with everyone else I AM THE ONLY IMPORTANT ONE HERE" .
Sun May 26, 2024, 09:10 AM
May 2024

I hope the FAA takes away his pilot's license.... for starts.

ShazzieB

(18,924 posts)
38. Yes, and the person who wrote this mess of an article should bbe taken to task, not the pilot.
Sun May 26, 2024, 03:27 PM
May 2024

Shame on them, and shame on the editor who let it be published with so much important info missing.

Ocelot II

(121,404 posts)
39. Not to mention the people who assumed from this sketchy report that the pilot was an a-hole
Sun May 26, 2024, 03:31 PM
May 2024

who abandoned his passengers and deserves to lose his license. I hope the people in his community eventually got the story straight and didn't leap to the same conclusions.

Irish_Dem

(59,505 posts)
13. There should be an investigation.
Sun May 26, 2024, 09:33 AM
May 2024

Was there a possible motive of some sort.
To harm the passengers.

Ocelot II

(121,404 posts)
21. *Everybody* parachuted out of the plane - the article is incomplete and misleading.
Sun May 26, 2024, 11:41 AM
May 2024
https://www.kctv5.com/2024/05/25/seven-people-survive-plane-crash-near-butler-memorial-airport/ It appears to have been a skydiving operation. So we can stop busting on the pilot now?

Wonder Why

(4,708 posts)
35. I like the OP story. More my kind of joke - like the airline pilot who died peacefully in his sleep while
Sun May 26, 2024, 02:09 PM
May 2024

his passengers died screaming.

Required by Law -

Rhiannon12866

(224,082 posts)
40. Thank you! Yikes, that would have been beyond terrifying!
Mon May 27, 2024, 04:40 AM
May 2024

Though likely equally terrifying for me if I had to parachute out of the plane...

CrispyQ

(38,543 posts)
4. So the asshole was wearing his chute or did he take time to put it on while telling his passengers he was bailing?
Sun May 26, 2024, 08:31 AM
May 2024

Wow.

bluedigger

(17,160 posts)
15. A Cessna 206 isn't a glider.
Sun May 26, 2024, 10:01 AM
May 2024

I've been up in a glider, and solo'd and owned a Piper Clipper taildragger, although I never got my license. My ex got her glider license at 16, and went on to a career in civil aviation. I never even saw a parachute during flight training, much less received any instruction on using one.

getagrip_already

(17,530 posts)
6. Did one of the passengers grab the stick after he bailed?
Sun May 26, 2024, 08:37 AM
May 2024

A small plane would still have some response to rudder and flaps even without the engine.

A passenger or someone in the copilot seat could have glided it in.

But not the pilot. He gets the Maga award.

Irish_Dem

(59,505 posts)
12. Yes that is what I am thinking too.
Sun May 26, 2024, 09:32 AM
May 2024

Why bring a parachute with you.

And so quickly put it on and abandon ship with passengers onboard.

Ocelot II

(121,404 posts)
26. See #21. Everyone wears a parachute in a skydiving plane, and everyone parachuted out.
Sun May 26, 2024, 11:43 AM
May 2024

Ocelot II

(121,404 posts)
30. If you know the plane is unsafe you don't fly it at all.
Sun May 26, 2024, 12:03 PM
May 2024

These were skydivers, and the pilot did not abandon the passengers, all of whom parachuted out. https://www.kctv5.com/2024/05/25/seven-people-survive-plane-crash-near-butler-memorial-airport/

Ocelot II

(121,404 posts)
14. The C-206 is often used as a jump plane for skydivers.
Sun May 26, 2024, 09:39 AM
May 2024

If that's what this was, it might explain why the pilot was wearing a parachute. Maybe this was a skydiving operation and the passengers had them as well, so the pilot was expecting everybody else to jump. But I'll be checking for the NTSB report on this one.

This is a C-206:

bluedigger

(17,160 posts)
16. This makes the most sense as an explanation.
Sun May 26, 2024, 10:04 AM
May 2024

Although the pilot abandoning his plane while the wings were still on begs further details. It's hard not to attribute malicious intent.

Response to bluedigger (Reply #16)

bluedigger

(17,160 posts)
18. The crash photo doesn't look like one anyone would walk away from.
Sun May 26, 2024, 10:09 AM
May 2024

Much less all six passengers. I'm thinking everyone jumped.

Ocelot II

(121,404 posts)
19. It's really hard to tell from the photo if that's the entire plane or just part of it.
Sun May 26, 2024, 11:23 AM
May 2024

And the article isn't at all clear about whether the other passengers were in it when it crashed. Maybe they all jumped, and if that was the case the pilot shouldn't be blamed for jumping as well. More news will come, I'm sure.

Ocelot II

(121,404 posts)
20. More news here: Everybody parachuted from the plane before it crashed.
Sun May 26, 2024, 11:27 AM
May 2024

As I guessed, it appears to have been a skydiving operation. https://www.kctv5.com/2024/05/25/seven-people-survive-plane-crash-near-butler-memorial-airport/ So we can stop busting on the pilot now.

Ocelot II

(121,404 posts)
29. It's really easy to jump to wrong conclusions
Sun May 26, 2024, 11:57 AM
May 2024

on the basis of an incomplete news article. The cited article referred to the pilot parachuting out of the plane, leading people to conclude that he must have abandoned his passengers - and excoriating him accordingly - me too, until I realized there had to be more to the story. So I got to thinking, a C-206 is often used for skydiving, and nobody wears a parachute just to fly one around, so this was probably a skydiving operation. It was hard to tell from the photo whether that was all or part of the plane, but it was obvious that there had been no fire, meaning it probably ran out of fuel. Skydiving planes carry minimum fuel so they can reach jump altitude with a full passenger load as quickly as possible, further evidence that these were skydivers, meaning they all would have had parachutes, and that the plane ran out of fuel before it could get back to the airport. Or maybe there was an in-flight breakup of some part of the aircraft. If they were high enough they could safely jump out.

But sure enough, a quick google led to more news articles stating that everybody had parachuted out. https://www.kctv5.com/2024/05/25/seven-people-survive-plane-crash-near-butler-memorial-airport/ The pilot did not abandon his passengers; on the contrary, he did the right thing by telling them to jump.

So maybe when we see a news item that seems outrageous in some way, we should look a little further before we reach outrageous conclusions?

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,610 posts)
31. Heartily agree...
Sun May 26, 2024, 12:21 PM
May 2024

Except, to point out that in this day and age, especially after the Costa Concordia incident, the concept of a "Gotta Be Me" pilot who would bail and leave his charges to their doom doesn't strain the imagination like it used to. But yes, the headline is reprehensible.

KS Toronado

(19,698 posts)
36. Just got back home
Sun May 26, 2024, 02:30 PM
May 2024

Thanks for finding the https://www.kctv5.com/ article with the rest of the story. From what I see someone at
www.kctv5.com got in a hurry to post the accident (Published: May. 25, 2024 at 4:46 PM CDT|Updated: 11 hours
ago), Hays Post seen it and re-posted it word for word as found 4 hours later at (Posted May 25, 2024 9:00 PM),
then www.kctv5 updated their website (11 hours ago) or 7 hours after the Hays Post posted theirs.

I sent Hays Post an email about
https://www.kctv5.com/2024/05/25/seven-people-survive-plane-crash-near-butler-memorial-airport/,
have no idea if anyone is working on a 3 day weekend.

I thought something didn't add up when I found this article , thanks for finding the rest of the story.

usaf-vet

(7,012 posts)
32. This is what I read from the ORIGINAL post.
Sun May 26, 2024, 01:17 PM
May 2024

BATES COUNTY —A pilot and six passengers survived a small plane crash that occurred just after 1p.m. Saturday near the Butler Memorial Airport, approximately one hour south of Kansas City.

First responders found the single-engine Cessna C206 in a hay field east of the airport runways, according to the Bates County, Missouri Sheriff.

The pilot had been able to parachute from the plane prior to the crash and was located at a hanger at the airport. EMS treated everyone involved at the scene and released them, according to the sheriff's office.

The plane is a total loss. The Bates County Sheriff’s Office is assisting the NTSB and the FAA in their investigations. Authorities released no additional details, including the name of the pilot.

Here is the ORIGINAL link:
https://hayspost.com/posts/103f5560-eee6-4220-a547-a576089ee71d

Where does it say they all had parachutes and were skydivers?

My original was at 09:10 in response to an 08:08 original post.

Your post was at 11:47. Obviously, the story was updated at some point.

Glad they ALL survived.

Ocelot II

(121,404 posts)
34. The original article was misleading in that it was incomplete.
Sun May 26, 2024, 02:00 PM
May 2024

The reporter for that publication should have added that the passengers also parachuted to safety. The problem with the incomplete report was that it led people to conclude that the pilot had abandoned the passengers.

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