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TexasTowelie

(116,744 posts) Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:57 PM Jul 2015

Should fleur de lis meet confederate flag’s fate?

NEW ORLEANS – The fleur de lis is a symbol that is deeply ingrained in Louisiana’s history. Seen in architecture, the state flag and on the helmets of the Saints, it’s everywhere.

But although it is now seen as the mark of our great state, it was once used to mark slaves.

“Code noir — those words are French and mean ‘black code,’” said slave historian Ibrahima Seck.

The black code was a set of regulations adopted in Louisiana in 1724 from other French colonies around the world, meant to govern the state’s slave population. Seck said those rules included branding slaves with the fleur de lis as punishment for running away.

Read more: http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/local/2015/07/19/fleur-de-lis-meet-confederate-flags-fate/30400385/

Cross-posted in the African-American Group.

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Should fleur de lis meet confederate flag’s fate? (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jul 2015 OP

`I'm thinking that the confederate flag met its fate Malraiders Jul 2015 #1

PC run amok pscot Jul 2015 #2

Should they take it off the flag of Quebec also ? KellyW Jul 2015 #3

That Scootaloo Jul 2015 #4

Um, no, completely different thing Warpy Jul 2015 #5

Malraiders

(444 posts)

1. `I'm thinking that the confederate flag met its fate

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:12 PM

Jul 2015

because racist thugs used it as they portrayed their racist wants and made it an undesirable item to many people who are offended by the sight of the flag on government buldings and grounds.

I would think that if the Fleur de Lis is seen by the masses in the same way then Yes.

The New Orlean Saints may need to find a new Icon if that happens.

pscot

(21,037 posts)

2. PC run amok

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:14 PM

Jul 2015

KellyW

(598 posts)

3. Should they take it off the flag of Quebec also ?

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:24 PM

Jul 2015

The fleur de lis has a very long history not associated with slavery.

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

4. That

Reply to KellyW (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:25 PM

Jul 2015

Unlike the confederate flag(s), which have never served any cause or purpose otherthan the defense and promotion of slavery and terrorism against black americans.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)

5. Um, no, completely different thing

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 12:14 AM

Jul 2015

While some of the slave owners used it, other used to brand other marks onto runaway slaves. It's why we fought the Civil War and did away with slavery. It's why we find the flag of those who wanted to preserve slavery with all its abuses a traitor's flag.

I think you'll find most people in the country opposed to branding runaway slaves. It's just odd that they have such affection for a flag representing support for it.

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