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luckyleftyme2

(3,880 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:46 AM Mar 2017

the right has a lousy more expensive healthcare plan


Comparison of the healthcare systems in Canada and the United States is often made by government, public health and public policy analysts.[1][2][3][4][5] The two countries had similar healthcare systems before Canada changed its system in the 1960s and 1970s. The United States spends much more money on healthcare than Canada, on both a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP.[6] In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S., US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on healthcare in that year; Canada spent 10.0%.[6] In 2006, 70% of healthcare spending in Canada was financed by government, versus 46% in the United States. Total government spending per capita in the U.S. on healthcare was 23% higher than Canadian government spending, and U.S. government expenditure on healthcare was just under 83% of total Canadian spending (public and private) though these statistics don't take into account population differences.[7]

Studies have come to different conclusions about the result of this disparity in spending. A 2007 review of all studies comparing health outcomes in Canada and the US in a Canadian peer-reviewed medical journal found that "health outcomes may be superior in patients cared for in Canada versus the United States, but differences are not consistent."[8] Some of the noted differences were a higher life expectancy in Canada, as well as a lower infant mortality rate than the United States.

One commonly cited comparison, the 2000 World Health Organization's ratings of "overall health service performance", which used a "composite measure of achievement in the level of health, the distribution of health, the level of responsiveness and fairness of financial contribution", ranked Canada 30th and the US 37th among 191 member nations. This study rated the US "responsiveness", or quality of service for individuals receiving treatment, as 1st, compared with 7th for Canada. However, the average life expectancy for Canadians was 80.34 years compared with 78.6 years for residents of the US.[9]

The WHO's study methods were criticized by some analyses. While life-expectancy and infant mortality are commonly used in comparing nationwide health care, they are in fact affected by many factors other than the quality of a nation's health care system, including individual behavior and population makeup.[10] A 2007 report by the Congressional Research Service carefully summarizes some recent data and noted the "difficult research issues" facing international comparisons.[11]

this was before obamacare=the right couldn't tell the truth if their pocket book depended on it
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the right has a lousy more expensive healthcare plan (Original Post) luckyleftyme2 Mar 2017 OP
Amen to that. old man 76 Mar 2017 #1
this is just one of the many negative reports on the infamous ryan screw you care luckyleftyme2 Mar 2017 #2

old man 76

(228 posts)
1. Amen to that.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 07:16 AM
Mar 2017

I can buy a three month diabetic drug from Canada for less then a one month supply costs in the U.S. I live in a Republican area where all you hear is I don't want the government in my health care. This is also one of the poorest counties in the state. If they are sick or injured they run to the emergency room. They can't pay so the insured end up covering the cost. Want to shut these people up? Just say if people can't show the ability to pay, doctors and hospitals should not be required to treat them and pass the cost on to others.
Just let them die. Watch how quick the room go's quiet.

luckyleftyme2

(3,880 posts)
2. this is just one of the many negative reports on the infamous ryan screw you care
Sat Mar 11, 2017, 11:00 PM
Mar 2017

For all the complaints about how the 2010 Affordable Care Act has shaped American health care, the various stakeholders in the US health care system—from hospitals to physicians to retirees to insurance companies to nurses—have said they don’t like the GOP’s plan to fix it.

Indeed, it’s hardly clear what problem this bill, known as the American Health Care Act, fixes. The current health care system has been criticized for not providing affordable options to middle-class purchasers of individual health insurance plans. But the Republican plan to replace subsidize marketplaces with refundable tax credits would shift costs to consumers in 48 US states, often by thousands of dollars, according to a Center on Budget and Policy Priorities analysis, and lead to tens of millions of Americans losing insurance coverage. And even that is seen as too generous by conservatives in the House, who don’t want the government to have any role at all in subsidizing health insurance.
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