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question everything

(48,799 posts)
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:38 AM May 2022

Again, Minnesota is an island in the Midwest

During the pandemic we were the only state mandating masks. There was even a Sack cartoon showing how we are shoving away visitors from Wisconsin, Iowa and the Dakotas.

Now we see maps of states that are ready to ban abortion and, again, Minnesota is an island among these and also Michigan.

Will be one more answer when, while shoveling snow, our neighbors ask why we still live in Minnesota.

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Again, Minnesota is an island in the Midwest (Original Post) question everything May 2022 OP
WI got fucked sideways by 2010 and Snotty Walker TheRealNorth May 2022 #1
Or as I call him Wanker..... a kennedy May 2022 #12
It's the Canadian connection, and urbanization Metaphorical May 2022 #2
You forgot Idaho geardaddy May 2022 #7
My son has been going to law school in Minneapolis to graduate in a week. LizBeth May 2022 #3
Don't forget Illinois. murielm99 May 2022 #4
Yes, illinois mandated masks PortTack May 2022 #5
Not only that, murielm99 May 2022 #6
No, but I was looking at the upper Midwest question everything May 2022 #10
And, for now, Iowa dflprincess May 2022 #8
In 1995 the Minnesota Supreme Court held that the state constitution protects Ocelot II May 2022 #9
It is my homeland Lulu KC May 2022 #11

TheRealNorth

(9,629 posts)
1. WI got fucked sideways by 2010 and Snotty Walker
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:17 AM
May 2022

Last edited Fri May 6, 2022, 11:30 AM - Edit history (1)

They passed antiabortion laws that I don't think can be stopped from going into effect (although I am sure Josh Kaul is looking for ways).

And until the state legislature gerrymandering can be undone (again, losing the WI State Supreme Court race in 2019 hurt us there), I don't see a way to undo the damage there.

Moral of the story - all election matter.

a kennedy

(32,070 posts)
12. Or as I call him Wanker.....
Tue May 24, 2022, 09:07 PM
May 2022

Totally destroyed the great liberal standing State. He totally destroyed it, along with others, but he was a huge factor for the once proud Liberal State to become the laughing stock, and paved the way for ROJO. 🤬 🤬 🤬

Metaphorical

(2,308 posts)
2. It's the Canadian connection, and urbanization
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:40 AM
May 2022

The Canadian-facing states - Washington, Montana, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine - are closest in temperament to their Canadian neighbors. Minnesota in particular is a lot like Ontario. Montana is interesting because, while it's generally a conservative state, it has a quirkiness to it that makes it more purple than red. North Dakota and Wisconsin are more rural (and are becoming more rural) than Minnesota, which has Minneapolis/St. Paul acting as the anchor for the state. Washington similarly has the Puget Sound region (Seattle, Tacoma, Olympia) that anchors the state - without that, it would probably look a lot like Montana - The fact that the I5 corridor includes Vancouver, BC also strengthens the association.

geardaddy

(25,342 posts)
7. You forgot Idaho
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:27 PM
May 2022

Plus NoDak and Michigan have trigger laws that will outlaw abortion if Roe is overturned.

LizBeth

(10,821 posts)
3. My son has been going to law school in Minneapolis to graduate in a week.
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:33 AM
May 2022

He has a job there now and will be settling down. He raves about his city, loves the progressive. Equals it to the NW. Seeing advantages, the NW doesn't have. But loves the NW too. May return sometime, or not. I am off to visit for the first time in a week. I am excited. So, this is good to read.

murielm99

(31,433 posts)
6. Not only that,
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:18 PM
May 2022

Pritzker had one of the best possible doctors in charge of pandemic matters. He held daily press conferences, which were covered in full on t.v.

He started early, and announced that the state would help out with setting up abortion clinics near the state borders so women from nearby states could get here easily for medical care.

Not all billionaires are bad guys.

Ocelot II

(120,825 posts)
9. In 1995 the Minnesota Supreme Court held that the state constitution protects
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:15 PM
May 2022

a woman's right to get an abortion and to receive state funds for it, finding that there is a right to privacy that covers reproductive rights, and further refused to follow a U.S. Supreme Court case, McRae, holding that refusing to provide government funding for abortions doesn't violate the federal constitution. Instead, the Minnesota court relied on Justice Brennan's dissent in that case. The state court isn't bound by US Supreme Court precedent when interpreting the state's constitution.

"This court has long recognized that we may interpret the Minnesota Constitution to offer greater protection of individual rights than the U.S. Supreme Court has afforded under the federal constitution. ... In some cases, we have in fact interpreted the Minnesota Constitution to provide more protection than that accorded under the federal constitution or have applied a more stringent constitutional standard of review. We find that this is one of those limited circumstances in which we will interpret our constitution to provide more protection than that afforded under the federal constitution."
http://users.soc.umn.edu/~samaha/cases/women%20of%20mn%20v%20gomez.htm

The GOP will keep trying, but this case and the state constitution will make it very difficult for them.
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