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Fri Jul 26, 2024, 09:18 PM Jul 2024

Hope, limbo, despair: Mexican family living in Minneapolis is deported after asylum bid denied

Dolls and stuffed animals peer out from shelves into the empty northeast Minneapolis apartment. Children's bikes and Hula-Hoops sit unused by the stairs. A "Happy Birthday" sign is draped across the entrance to the living room, marking the first birthday of the family's only American-born citizen: a boy named Leo. "Look at this," said Ry Siggelkow, gesturing around the living room where he once enjoyed gathering. "It's such a home, you know?"

But his friends — Pablo, Efi and their four children, who lived there for four years — abruptly departed this spring when the U.S. government sent them back to Mexico. Now, Siggelkow is grappling with how tenuous home can be. U.S. immigration judges have ordered 227,162 people deported since October 2023, leaving communities to feel the sometimes-painful ripple effects.

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Pablo and his wife, Efi, spoke with the Star Tribune from Mexico on the condition that their state and surname not be published in order to protect their safety. They live in a region of Mexico for which the U.S. Department of State has issued a "do not travel" advisory due to widespread crime and violence. In U.S. government documents, Pablo said his role as a local government commissioner in Mexico made him a target for criminal groups, including a cartel. He recounted returning from a community meeting in July 2019 when cartel members ambushed and beat him. Afterward, the family was terrified and stopped leaving the house. Efi said cartel members threatened her and said they would harm her eldest son.

In an asylum application, she wrote: "I fear that if we return to Mexico we will be hunted down by Cartel del Sur and physically persecuted because Pablo did not give into their threats and violence." Later in 2019, Pablo, Efi and their children fled to northern Mexico. In the border town of Juarez, Pablo befriended Siggelkow, then pastor of Faith Mennonite Church in Minneapolis, who was on a migrant outreach trip with other faith leaders. (Siggelkow is now director of the Leadership Center for Social Justice at United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities.) He encouraged Pablo to call if he ever needed a place to stay in America. After the family crossed the border that December, they wound up living with Siggelkow and his wife, Marcia, for a few months.

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Efi picked up cleaning and cooking jobs, and she served on the board of Pueblos de Lucha y Esperanza, an immigrant social justice nonprofit that Siggelkow co-founded. Pablo worked in construction and as a mover. They hired Minnetonka immigration attorney Steve Thal. The couple had an interview in October 2020 with an asylum officer to determine if they faced a "credible fear" of returning to Mexico. They received a negative decision, which meant their asylum case could not proceed. Thal said that, by law, the government must hold a hearing to review a decision within a week, but that didn't happen — for 1,297 days.

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https://www.startribune.com/they-became-like-family-one-deportations-impact-on-minneapolis-residents/600385743/

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I am really ambivalent about the border situation, don't know enough. But for a family who lived here for four yeas, making a living to be deported where their lives are in danger..

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Hope, limbo, despair: Mexican family living in Minneapolis is deported after asylum bid denied (Original Post) question everything Jul 2024 OP
That is the way the current system and laws work MichMan Jul 2024 #1
Biden-Harris administration has kicked out far more immigrants than Trump ever managed to BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2024 #2
Seems like a pretty clear asylum case to me iemanja Jul 2024 #3
I agree dflprincess Jul 2024 #4

MichMan

(13,160 posts)
1. That is the way the current system and laws work
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 06:47 AM
Jul 2024

They claimed asylum when they entered and were permitted to stay pending due process and a hearing. Due to the enormous backlog, it took a few years for their claim to be adjudicated, but they got due process. Like the majority of asylum claims, it was ultimately denied, and under the law, they are to be deported back to their country of origin.

What is the alternative? Let everyone who says the word asylum when entering to stay permanently regardless of the outcome? If that's the case, there is no longer any reason to even have asylum hearings.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(10,197 posts)
2. Biden-Harris administration has kicked out far more immigrants than Trump ever managed to
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 01:03 AM
Jul 2024
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/28/trump-biden-immigration-deportation-00167914

Trump Says He Wants to Deport Millions. He’ll Have a Hard Time Removing More People Than Biden Has.
Even as Trump slams the president for open borders, the Biden-Harris administration has kicked out far more immigrants than Trump ever managed to.



if you go to Tijuana, right up to the border wall, you can see a deportation in its final throes. At the edge of a Mexican freeway that runs along the border, there’s a nondescript metal door. On any given morning, a Mexican official will open the padlock on the Mexican side and an American immigration agent will open the padlock on the U.S. side. Then, dozens—sometimes hundreds — of people get pushed back into Mexico. Some wander to shelters; others end up camping just outside the door, as if staying close by might improve their chances of getting back in. That deportation door got plenty of use under Donald Trump. But perhaps no president has used it more than Joe Biden.

You wouldn’t have guessed that watching Trump’s 92-minute speech at the Republican National Convention earlier this month, where Trump brutalized the Biden-Harris administration over Biden’s immigration record, accusing the president of throwing the border open.

“Under the Trump administration, if you came in illegally, you were apprehended immediately and you were deported,” Trump crowed, as the audience on the floor waved “MASS DEPORTATION NOW!” banners. “That’s why, to keep our family safe, the Republican platform promises to launch the largest deportation operation in the history of our country.”


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Biden’s migrant removals started as soon as he took office. In the spring of 2021, deep in the depths of the Covid-19 pandemic, I was in a camp in Tijuana, where some migrants were so hopeful the new president would let them in that they flew “BIDEN FOR PRESIDENT” flags outside their tents. But most of them who crossed got a slap from reality: They were quickly frog-marched by U.S. Border Patrol back through the deportation doorway, back to the squalid camps in cartel turf. Others got rapidly loaded onto ICE planes and flown back to Haiti, Guatemala, El Salvador, wherever. As the number of people crossing the border grew during Biden’s first two years in office, these expulsions reached a scorching pace. ICE charter flights bounced around the globe like Taylor Swift’s jet. According to data collected by Tom Cartwright, a researcher with the advocacy group Witness at the Border, there were more ICE flights in the air during the early Biden years than ever before.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/28/trump-biden-immigration-deportation-00167914

iemanja

(54,765 posts)
3. Seems like a pretty clear asylum case to me
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 08:21 PM
Jul 2024

If they deny this family, who do they grant asylum to? Are all Mexicans excluded because of nationality? This decision is inhumane.

dflprincess

(28,469 posts)
4. I agree
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:26 PM
Jul 2024

I would think anyone who has a cartel after them would qualify. But it all depends on which judge you get & this family apparently had the bad luck to get a real asshole.

There needs to be a way to make this less process less subjective.

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