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lastlib

(24,910 posts)
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 07:57 PM Aug 2024

Anybody have any thoughts on the constitutional amendments on the 8/6 primary ballot?

I read them, but can't make a lot of sense of them. Wondering who might be behind them, and what they want. The property tax exemption for child-care facilities sounds like an opportunity for corporations to dodge property taxes by claiming that they offer childcare, thus shifting tax burdens onto other taxpayers.

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Anybody have any thoughts on the constitutional amendments on the 8/6 primary ballot? (Original Post) lastlib Aug 2024 OP
Here in Wisconsin the Republicans are trying to pass a couple of constitutional amendments that... yourout Aug 2024 #1
sounds kinda familiar..... lastlib Aug 2024 #2
I usually go to Vote411.ORG for info. HeartsCanHope Aug 2024 #3
The KC police funding measure was overturned by the state Supreme Court. lastlib Aug 2024 #4
I saw that the State Supreme Court overturned it because the wording was unclear. HeartsCanHope Aug 2024 #5
Thanks! lastlib Aug 2024 #6
So I saw this on Ballotpedia... HeartsCanHope Aug 2024 #7
Here is the link on Ballotpedia for Amendment 1. HeartsCanHope Aug 2024 #8
I read the ballotpedia bit, which is where I got my initial info on it. lastlib Aug 2024 #9

yourout

(8,071 posts)
1. Here in Wisconsin the Republicans are trying to pass a couple of constitutional amendments that...
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 08:03 PM
Aug 2024

Would limit the ability of the governor to spend emergency funds.
But of course it's going to be worded in such a way that no one will understand what they're voting for.

lastlib

(24,910 posts)
2. sounds kinda familiar.....
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 08:18 PM
Aug 2024

take a policy no one's going to like, wrap it in incomprehensible/confusing verbiage, and foist it off as best thing since the wheel.

HeartsCanHope

(736 posts)
3. I usually go to Vote411.ORG for info.
Sun Aug 4, 2024, 07:08 AM
Aug 2024

The candidates and any ballot measures are discussed. Usually they do a great job discussing the pros and cons, but this time I feel confused. Don't know why we keep voting on the same issues, too. Apparently we voted and approved the increase in funding for the Kansas City police department in 2022. Why do we need an amendment to implement the pay rise? Any thoughts?
I'm not sure that the Childcare one is a good idea either. As you said the potential for abuse by corporations seems likely. I have reservations about the lost tax revenues to Community Colleges, The Blind Pension Fund, etc. Also, how would this be enforced? Are they increasing the number of investigators to check that facility is licensed and their teachers are trained and licensed?? Sounds as if they aren't worrying enough about the potential harm to children in substandard childcare facilities in their rush to provide more childcare. It is supposedly a bipartisan effort, but I think there's got to be a better answer than just tax breaks. That smacks of old-time Republican answers to every situation!
So basically I'm no help! I'm looking forward to other replies.

lastlib

(24,910 posts)
4. The KC police funding measure was overturned by the state Supreme Court.
Sun Aug 4, 2024, 07:48 AM
Aug 2024

ordered back on the ballot this year. Haven't dicovered why the first one was overturned,

HeartsCanHope

(736 posts)
5. I saw that the State Supreme Court overturned it because the wording was unclear.
Sun Aug 4, 2024, 08:01 AM
Aug 2024

Don't know what that means exactly. What in the wording was unclear?! Will let you know if I find anything.

HeartsCanHope

(736 posts)
7. So I saw this on Ballotpedia...
Sun Aug 4, 2024, 08:21 AM
Aug 2024
https://ballotpedia.org/Missouri_Amendment_4,_Allow_Legislature_to_Require_a_City_to_Increase_Funding_without_State_Reimbursement_for_a_Police_Force_Established_by_State_Board_Measure_(August_2024)

Lot of stuff to plow through. Showing my ignorance--Do you know how Ballotpedia leans? Don't know anything about it. Anyway as you get farther down in the information you see that It was two Republicans that pushed it originally in the State Senate and House. Only a handful of Dems supported it in the house and senate. The Kansas City Star and the Democratic Kansas City Mayor opposed it. The mayor was the one that sued to have the Missouri Supreme Court overturn it. Or at least that is my skim reading of it. Let me know what you think. I really need help on both of these issues. I'll check Ballotpedia for the other amendment, too. I've got a headache now, and going to go lie down for a while! I'll try to post later. Thanks again for your help!

HeartsCanHope

(736 posts)
8. Here is the link on Ballotpedia for Amendment 1.
Sun Aug 4, 2024, 05:49 PM
Aug 2024

Best explanation I could find.
https://ballotpedia.org/Missouri_Amendment_1,_Property_Tax_Exemption_for_Childcare_Establishments_Measure_(August_2024)
Asked my son about Ballotpedia and he says that he thinks it is neutral. Just presents both sides of an issue if the information is available. Not much of a campaign against Amendment 1, but I'm not sure I want to support a tax cut that will take funds from other groups. I agree that the childcare situation is not good, but this seems like a convoluted way to help. I'm always leery of tax cuts!
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

lastlib

(24,910 posts)
9. I read the ballotpedia bit, which is where I got my initial info on it.
Sun Aug 4, 2024, 11:50 PM
Aug 2024

I did read that KC Mayor Lucas opposed the original law, and brought the suit that overturned it. I suspect he and many KC Dems oppose this amendment, which kinda persuades me to join in. This proposed amendment had a lot of GOPee support in the legislature, which is another factor against it for me. But I probably need to do some more research on it.

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