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Shell_Seas

(3,454 posts)
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:29 PM Jan 2021

3 white police officers abuse and pepper spray 9 year old girl in Rochester, NY

🚨🚨 TRIGGER WARNING 🚨🚨 This happened in Rochester, NY. Three white police officers abuse and pepper spray a NINE YEAR OLD GIRL. It was all caught on body cam. The girl, did I mention was only NINE, was crying and calling out for her daddy the entire time. All three should be in jail for child abuse now. This is horrific.

https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/watch-body-camera-footage-of-rpd-officer-using-irritant-on-9-year-old-girl-/5996842/?cat=565


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brush

(57,517 posts)
2. This is a prime example of when social workers should be deployed with cops to...
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jan 2021

handle out-of-control situations. The child is distraught from seeing a domestic argument/possible battering between her mother and father.

The cop is trying to control the girl when the mother arrives. The girl thinks the mother stabbed her father but the mother says the blood came from the father socking her in the nose and the girls know tha the father has hit her many times. The girl refuses to believe her and keeps yelling for her father.

It's a tough to handle situation and the cops showed restraint IMO. I watched both videos and I didn't see pepper spraying even when they got the girl in the police car. The child kept yelling for her dad and wouldn't let the female cop, who called to handle her, close the car door.

It was a sad situation. A social worker needed to be as the child was entirely out of control.

exboyfil

(18,000 posts)
7. A social worker is no more magical than a cop
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:12 PM
Jan 2021

My daughter is a mental health nurse. She would have absolutely no interest in joining cops when dealing with a person in distress because of the potential presence of weapons. Her job is already dangerous enough on her floor.

I don't see cuffing a 9 year old who doesn't have a weapon or committed a crime on the say so of the mother.

brush

(57,517 posts)
8. What's your suggestion, just leaving everything up to cops then? Isn't that what the whole...
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:41 PM
Jan 2021

defund the police was about (of which I don't agree, maybe reallocate police funds)? The status quo is certainly not working.

exboyfil

(18,000 posts)
10. You want social workers not trained in handling violent situations with weapons as first responders
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 05:03 PM
Jan 2021

in domestic dispute cases? In this case it was first reported as a stolen car.

What is the model?

Three person teams where the Social Worker can be set up in what is effectively a rolling office and only deployed in a crisis situation (otherwise sitting in the back seat of the squad car). The Social Worker has a separate reporting structure so, in effect, an independent witness to the actions of the cops. At the door with the cops for a domestic disturbance call, but not part of the actual police team. I can see the cops saying, "Sure, you can deal with the 250# autistic man with a kitchen knife." Once the social gets stabbed, then shoot the man.

brush

(57,517 posts)
11. Wouldn't the idea be to train specialists to assist police in domestic situations?
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 05:29 PM
Jan 2021

Of course not live fire situations but in back-up roles to be called in once police have established firearms are not involved.

And the little girl was not armed.

raging moderate

(4,502 posts)
3. Is somebody helping this little girl right now?
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jan 2021

Is she all right? How is she doing? Are this mayor and this chief of police actually helping and protecting her? Are others actually helping and protecting her? I think a whole bunch of strong, sympathetic grownups should be surrounding this little girl, helping and protecting her a lot!

exboyfil

(18,000 posts)
6. Do they regularly apprehend and cuff a 9 year old on the say so of the mother?
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jan 2021

Frankly the cops should just call social services unless the child had a weapon.

Unless the cops are in danger of being kicked (which would imply a much larger person) or bitten there is absolutely no justification for pepper spraying someone who is cuffed from behind.

brush

(57,517 posts)
9. It was a tough situation. IMO specialist in domestic crisis situations should be called...
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:44 PM
Jan 2021

for situations like this. I didn't see pepper spray in the video.

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