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Related: About this forumNew York changes gun buyback after seller gets $21,000 for 3D-printed parts
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/11/new-york-gun-buyback-rules-3d-printed-parts#:New York changes gun buyback after seller gets $21,000 for 3D-printed parts
Participant used a 3D printer to make firearm parts in bulk that he then exchanged for gift cards
Associated Press in New York
Tue 11 Oct 2022 15.47 EDT
The attorney general of New York has changed the rules of a state gun buyback program, after a participant exploited the system by using a 3D printer to make firearm parts in bulk that he then exchanged for $21,000 in gift cards.
The seller, who identified himself by a pseudonym, said he traveled from West Virginia to a gun buyback on 27 August in Utica, New York, to take advantage of a loophole in the program and to demonstrate that buybacks are futile in an era of printable weapons.
At the buyback, the seller turned in 60 printed auto sears, small devices that can convert firearms into fully automatic weapons. Under the rules of the buyback, hosted by the office of the attorney general, Letitia James, and city police, that entitled him to $350 for each of the printed parts, including a $100 premium, since they were deemed ghost guns lacking serial numbers.
The seller, who declined to provide his real name, said in an email on Monday the prospect of making money was enticing, but that the big reason he took part in the buyback was to send a message.
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Participant used a 3D printer to make firearm parts in bulk that he then exchanged for gift cards
Associated Press in New York
Tue 11 Oct 2022 15.47 EDT
The attorney general of New York has changed the rules of a state gun buyback program, after a participant exploited the system by using a 3D printer to make firearm parts in bulk that he then exchanged for $21,000 in gift cards.
The seller, who identified himself by a pseudonym, said he traveled from West Virginia to a gun buyback on 27 August in Utica, New York, to take advantage of a loophole in the program and to demonstrate that buybacks are futile in an era of printable weapons.
At the buyback, the seller turned in 60 printed auto sears, small devices that can convert firearms into fully automatic weapons. Under the rules of the buyback, hosted by the office of the attorney general, Letitia James, and city police, that entitled him to $350 for each of the printed parts, including a $100 premium, since they were deemed ghost guns lacking serial numbers.
The seller, who declined to provide his real name, said in an email on Monday the prospect of making money was enticing, but that the big reason he took part in the buyback was to send a message.
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New York changes gun buyback after seller gets $21,000 for 3D-printed parts (Original Post)
sl8
Oct 2022
OP
Message received; there is always a criminal mind nearby willing to rip off society
sanatanadharma
Oct 2022
#1
Honestly, if you follow the rules, then he can't blame the person using the rules.
jimfields33
Oct 2022
#2
sanatanadharma
(4,074 posts)1. Message received; there is always a criminal mind nearby willing to rip off society
Society, individuals, it is all the same to the coveting ego.
Desire is the organizing principle of the ego; selfishness taking priority over ethics.
jimfields33
(18,878 posts)2. Honestly, if you follow the rules, then he can't blame the person using the rules.
If they follow the law, how can you complain? People in charge of writing the rules were not responsible and perhaps need disciplined.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,168 posts)3. This has been common for a while now
Well not the 3d printed part, but the turning in fake stuff in order to get the money. Many places have had to change their rules to minimize it. I've read of some buybacks only collecting a few legitimate firearms because they got cleaned out by people bringing in fake stuff they just put together with hardware store scraps.