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barbtries

(29,776 posts)
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 06:16 AM Feb 2015

there's always a lot of bitching about how democrats don't get the message out.

well, thousands marched in Raleigh this weekend. can you find it on the news?

i am so pissed. i am watching the local news while getting ready for work. someone got shot and killed due to road rage. no word on her religion. a storm is coming. dah de dah de dah

maybe democrats can stop blaming themselves and take the protests to the news stations. media is a HUGE part of the problem in this country and i for one am ready to stop whipping myself because of it.

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there's always a lot of bitching about how democrats don't get the message out. (Original Post) barbtries Feb 2015 OP
You're right. The media does a shit job of covering what really matters. CurtEastPoint Feb 2015 #1
The MSM works for the oligarchs. Don't expect them to provide fair coverage, they're propagandists. Scuba Feb 2015 #2
exactly, so my point is barbtries Feb 2015 #3
Hard for us to direct the spotlights when the oligarchs own all the spotlights. That's why ... Scuba Feb 2015 #4
entirely agree. nt barbtries Feb 2015 #7
It's the elected Democratic politicians and leadership that is also to blame. stillwaiting Feb 2015 #5
/\ THIS /\ octoberlib Feb 2015 #20
Looks like it was smaller than the previous year Android3.14 Feb 2015 #6
Last year, tens of thousands; this year thoussands? antiquie Feb 2015 #8
OK the Washington Times reported it marions ghost Feb 2015 #17
My apologies, no offense intended. antiquie Feb 2015 #18
None taken marions ghost Feb 2015 #23
Perhaps surrounding media outlets The Wizard Feb 2015 #9
I am usually referring to our Democratic "representatives" for not getting the message out.. Triana Feb 2015 #10
sick and tired of MSM? dicksmc3 Feb 2015 #11
At the same time that we get the real message out marions ghost Feb 2015 #16
In a county of 37,000, we got almost 600 to march in November... ColesCountyDem Feb 2015 #12
There was a shooting incident in Eastern Washington last week... Wounded Bear Feb 2015 #13
Absolutely marions ghost Feb 2015 #14
Point on media spot-on but Moral Mondays are not "the Democrats" bread_and_roses Feb 2015 #15
+1. The sad truth. appalachiablue Feb 2015 #19
be the media gklagan Feb 2015 #21
i have a few barbtries Feb 2015 #22
Kick for NC n/t RobertEarl Jun 2016 #24
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. The MSM works for the oligarchs. Don't expect them to provide fair coverage, they're propagandists.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 07:01 AM
Feb 2015

barbtries

(29,776 posts)
3. exactly, so my point is
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 07:07 AM
Feb 2015

instead of pointing the finger at ourselves for "bad messaging" maybe we can just keep a spotlight on what media does and does not do. oh it's so bad i cannot listen to NPR's political coverage let alone so-called "mainstream" crap. rachel and melissa i can usually bear, but why do they bring on asshole republicans and then act as if they're doing something good by that? unless they shine a light on what's wrong....

aargh. gotta go to work. i'm just turning bitter which pisses me off even more!

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
4. Hard for us to direct the spotlights when the oligarchs own all the spotlights. That's why ...
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 07:16 AM
Feb 2015

... net neutrality is so important and why it's CRITICAL that the government does NOT create a definition for "journalists" who would receive freedom of the press priviledges.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
5. It's the elected Democratic politicians and leadership that is also to blame.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 07:24 AM
Feb 2015

They DO have the spotlight or can have the spotlight in the media if they so choose.

They can get their message out as an organized Party with an organized agenda through their communications with voters, media appearances, while they represent "us" in Congress (a few actually do, thank you Elizabeth and Bernie), etc.

Of course, the media is not going to help us, but the elected politicians definitely share a huge part of the blame. They don't fight for our values, and they don't expose what the Republicans' agenda has brought to the American people in an effective way that resonates (and that should be easy).

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
6. Looks like it was smaller than the previous year
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 07:27 AM
Feb 2015

It looks like it's more state news than national, but I found this.
http://www.wral.com/thousands-pack-downtown-raleigh-for-annual-hkonj-march-rally/14444668/
The clip isn't much, and with everyone gone for the long weekend, it may have been a matter of using canned stories and allocating limited resources for current news coverage.

Still sad to see such meager coverage of a great state news story.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
17. OK the Washington Times reported it
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:29 AM
Feb 2015

in a fairly neutral way for a change.

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Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/14/annual-mass-moral-march-for-nc-held-saturday-in-ra/#ixzz3RuyaBr00

This country is very strange. I hardly recognize it any more.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
23. None taken
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 11:22 AM
Feb 2015

you know I only clicked on the top link--thought it was all one link...

I appreciate the Carolina Mercury article. Am totally behind this movement in every way.

The Wizard

(12,863 posts)
9. Perhaps surrounding media outlets
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:29 AM
Feb 2015

and making entering and exiting their buildings a daunting task. Our media serves as propaganda to serve the wealthy elites by keeping the masses misinformed. Pox News just provides cover for the others.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
10. I am usually referring to our Democratic "representatives" for not getting the message out..
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:35 AM
Feb 2015

...not my fellow Democratic voters themselves. We're voiceless because they cower and hide in corners. Our reps should be out in public and on airwaves raising hell. But they're inexplicably not. I always question why Sanders and Warren can get TV time but no other Dems can (though Sanders isn't a Dem)

dicksmc3

(262 posts)
11. sick and tired of MSM?
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:51 AM
Feb 2015

I have an answer for you. Robert Reich and Moveon have a program that bypasses the MSM and gets the REAL message out. So go to Moveon.org and sign up and help this effort.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
16. At the same time that we get the real message out
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:22 AM
Feb 2015

--we need to actively monitor and work against the monolithic mass media.

Because the vast majority of people in this country are suckers for the hyped-up distorted garbage they dish out. Hooked on it. And will never get the real message...

Two pronged.

ColesCountyDem

(6,944 posts)
12. In a county of 37,000, we got almost 600 to march in November...
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:01 AM
Feb 2015

Prior to our gubernatorial election, we organized a "Vote Quinn" march in the county seat, and had almost 600 registered Democrats join in. Not even the local newspaper (owned by Gatehouse media) covered the march.

Wounded Bear

(60,681 posts)
13. There was a shooting incident in Eastern Washington last week...
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:02 AM
Feb 2015

There were protests over the weekend. It got some coverage from the local news, but it seems that the NRA has won. The national media doesn't get excited about shootings any more. Just another day at the office.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
14. Absolutely
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:14 AM
Feb 2015

--we need to protest the major media outlets and their constant distortion and mind control tactics.

They have polarized this country for their own ends.

Tired Of It.

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
15. Point on media spot-on but Moral Mondays are not "the Democrats"
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 09:14 AM
Feb 2015

Moral Mondays are organized by a coalition of activists, not the Democratic Party.

How many Party leaders have participated? Here in NY we held some Moral Mondays at the Capital and around the state - I don't recall Senator Schumer joining us? One target of the protests is our DEMOCRATIC Governor who is waging a war on public education - and teachers unions - in NY.

The media aside, "the Democrats" are neither saying what needs to be said nor even trying to do what needs to be done. They are far too deep in the pockets of their Corporate Paymasters.

gklagan

(123 posts)
21. be the media
Tue Feb 17, 2015, 04:06 PM
Feb 2015

The thing I took from Gandhi's auto-bio was that he was constantly setting up newspapers. It's all well and good to be the change you want to see but it helps to be the media too.

Anyone on this thread have interest or experience in setting up alt-media sources for NC or have NC specific outlets they want to share?

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