Tennessee

Duppers

(28,229 posts) Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:12 AM Mar 2023

TN to refuse to marry same-sex, mixed-race, transgender couples

TN House passes bill allowing courts to refuse to marry same-sex, mixed-race, transgender couples.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/3/8/2156904/-Tennessee-passes-bill-allowing-courts-to-refuse-to-marry-same-sex-mixed-race-transgender-couples

UNBELIEVABLE!!

On edit: As poster below noted, this is NOT YET a law.

(My apologies if this is a re-post.)

Copied from DK article:

If there ever was a time to boycott a state, now would be it. On Monday, the Tennessee House of Representatives passed a law that allows county clerks to refuse to marry same-sex, transgender, and mixed-race couples if they disagree with the union, The New Republic reports.

The bill, which now moves to the state Senate, reads: “a person shall not be required to solemnize a marriage if the person has an objection to solemnizing the marriage based on the person’s conscience or religious beliefs.

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TN to refuse to marry same-sex, mixed-race, transgender couples (Original Post) Duppers Mar 2023 OP

Have they ever heard of equal rights under the law.... Karadeniz Mar 2023 #1

Misleading Subject line NoRethugFriends Mar 2023 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Mar 2023 #3

Sorry.... Duppers Mar 2023 #4

No worries NoRethugFriends Mar 2023 #7

"The bill allows clerks to refuse, the state doesn't itself refuse." hippywife Mar 2023 #6

That's how I see it. If the state gives elected officials within the state Wingus Dingus Mar 2023 #9

You make another good point... hippywife Mar 2023 #10

The same way the south kept people of color from voting yaesu Mar 2023 #12

Incredible!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2023 #5

The is another example of the loss of freedom that the religious nuts walkingman Mar 2023 #8

Yeah, but they still have to honor my Tennessee same-sex marriage. OldBaldy1701E Mar 2023 #11

Karadeniz

(23,326 posts)

1. Have they ever heard of equal rights under the law....

Reply to Duppers (Original post)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:17 AM

Mar 2023

NoRethugFriends

(2,903 posts)

2. Misleading Subject line

Reply to Duppers (Original post)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:20 AM

Mar 2023

The bill has not yet been passed or signed (though it might be).
The bill allows clerks to refuse, the state doesn't itself refuse.
The bill does not mention the classes you cite.
It is of course aimed at two of the classes you cite, but not the third, though it is so vague it could be applied in any way. A gay clerk could have a moral objection against a straight couple.

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Duppers

(28,229 posts)

4. Sorry....

Reply to NoRethugFriends (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:25 AM

Mar 2023

I did not write this article.

Bet are on, they pass this bill. My birth state is doing its damnedest to turn back the clock as far as it (they) can.

NoRethugFriends

(2,903 posts)

7. No worries

Reply to Duppers (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:59 AM

Mar 2023

My state (PA) is doing a bit better these days)

hippywife

(22,767 posts)

6. "The bill allows clerks to refuse, the state doesn't itself refuse."

Reply to NoRethugFriends (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:56 AM

Mar 2023

If the clerk, employed by the state and paid by taxpayers, refuses, then the state has refused.

Wingus Dingus

(8,316 posts)

9. That's how I see it. If the state gives elected officials within the state

Reply to hippywife (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:37 PM

Mar 2023

the power to refuse marriages based on personal feelings, then it's ultimately the state that is denying gay/interracial/transgender people their rights, not individuals.

hippywife

(22,767 posts)

10. You make another good point...

Reply to Wingus Dingus (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 01:06 PM

Mar 2023

that these people many times aren't just bodies filling clerical positions, they are actually elected, making it even more so that the state would be rejecting their duties.

yaesu

(8,107 posts)

12. The same way the south kept people of color from voting

Reply to hippywife (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 07:38 PM

Mar 2023

Individuals with the power to take away a person's constitutional right. We need a strong central government to fight these fascist states, we seem to have a paper tiger Fed government

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)

5. Incredible!!! n/t

Reply to Duppers (Original post)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:37 AM

Mar 2023

walkingman

(8,247 posts)

8. The is another example of the loss of freedom that the religious nuts

Reply to Duppers (Original post)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:16 PM

Mar 2023

are causing around the country. As HIPPYWIFE stated earlier when someone acts on behalf of a State it should not be based upon religion or religious belief.

Without freedom from religion, there is no freedom of religion...

OldBaldy1701E

(6,178 posts)

11. Yeah, but they still have to honor my Tennessee same-sex marriage.

Reply to Duppers (Original post)

Fri Mar 10, 2023, 01:19 PM

Mar 2023

Because that is where it happened, where it was officiated over by a judge (a friend of mine for sure, but still a judge) and signed and all that. They issued it and it is still valid. So, those hillbilly rethugs can SUCK it. (Oh wait, they don't do that...).

I am hoping that the good people of Tennessee can reclaim their state from the insanity that is Republicanism.

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