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CCExile

(524 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:17 AM Aug 27

Scaring the Seniors in Corpus Christi

My uncle saw a notice of a voter information meeting in his assisted living facility. Wanting to know how to check to see if his voter registration address change had gone through, he decided to attend. Here is the text of the notice:

"Be Ready To Vote!
Nueces Election Integrity Project
Wednesday, August 21, 10:00a.m.
Representatives from the non-partisan organization, Nueces Election Integrity Project, will be here to assist in voter registration, application for mail in ballots, etc.
If you have not yet registered or changed your address or need help getting a mail-in ballot, or have questions in general, be sure to attend."

At the meeting there was a lone man, no brochures, fliers, or registration materials. The man presented no information about the issues listed in the announcement. Instead, he launched into the classic maga diatribe about "massive voter fraud", the dangers of registering through organizations like the League of Women Voters (they'll steal your identity!). He was scaring the "old folks"!
Strike One.

The next day, my uncle went down to the office to talk to the events manager. She showed him the business card used by the speaker. The card displayed and obvious cut-and paste county seal, a bogus claim to being a Deputy Voter Registrar (that's not what they are called in Nueces County), and a phone number and email address that are in no way connected to the county.
Strike Two.

The next day my uncle went down to the county voter office. They did not know the name on the business card. He asked about the claims of voter fraud, and they said there hadn't been any in Nueces County for over 30 years. He asked about the Nueces Election Integrity Project, and they said that that organization was ruining their jobs and devastating their budget with endless FOIA requests, and that no, the organization was not associated with Nueces County in any way.
Strike Three.

Subsequently, my uncle and I got on the web to check out the Nueces Election Integrity Project. Their home page states that they are a non-partisan organization. The last page states that, far from being non-partisan, they are A DIVISION OF the Texas Republican Party.

So, they have a man impersonating a county officer, misrepresenting to senior citizens what his meeting is about, lying to them and scaring them, claiming to represent a non-partisan group that is hyper-partisan, and generally (seemingly) involved in a conspiracy to interfere with the next election.

My questions:
Is this legal?
Is this one-off rogue maga nut, or part of a concerted effort by a division of the Texas Republican Party (or National!)
The Nueces County Election office has been made aware of this. Who else should be told (Texas State Attorney General is super MAGA)?
We have the guy's real name, business card, a photo, a copy of the flier, screen shots from the website, and a dozen witnesses.

Maybe you can tell I'm pissed, and not particularly "objective" at this point!

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spooky3

(36,193 posts)
2. Can you send this info to Mark Elias? His law firm does a lot of
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:33 AM
Aug 27

Work on voter suppression. And he wins consistently.

surfered

(3,077 posts)
3. Not an expert in these matters, but I would try the District Attorney's Office , James Granberry at 361-888-0410
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:43 AM
Aug 27

The bad news is he's a Republican appointed by Gov Abbott.

Next, I would contact The Texas Secretary of State, Jane Nelson, 800-252-8683, but she was also appointed by Abbott.

You might try LULAC. Can't find a phone #, but their email is: contact@lulac1.org

You have a valid complaint and don't give up.

magicarpet

(16,501 posts)
4. Nice job documenting this Fascist bullshit in election meddling.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:54 AM
Aug 27

Now a way needs to be found so action can be taken to stop this deception in the election process.

CCExile

(524 posts)
5. If it's a one-off...
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:06 AM
Aug 27

like the guy took it upon himself, it probably won't amount to much. If this activity is being echoed all over the state or country, people need to know, like RIGHT NOW!

magicarpet

(16,501 posts)
7. I would not out it past the Fascist ReThugs to be pulling this under the radar,..
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:20 AM
Aug 27

... scheme to game the coming election to their favor. All these little seemingly harmless ploys add up to an election victory for the Nazi Khrishtun Theocracy squad.

If they misrepresent themselves or seek to confuse voters so blatantly they need to be stopped.

Bobstandard

(1,660 posts)
6. Post the guy's info here
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:12 AM
Aug 27

That’s one thing you can do. Let’s shine a little light on this. As it says in the Bible, everyone who does evil hates the light. It’s legal and it’s a start.

dobleremolque

(893 posts)
8. You would probably do better
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:24 AM
Aug 27

to make a federal case out of it. Report the incident to the US attorney for your district. Ask them how to make the Civil Rights division of the Department of Justice aware of the incident. Your local Federal Bureau of Investigation office might be able to give you directions on how to bring it to the attention of the feds.

Figarosmom

(2,612 posts)
10. Contact justice dept civil rights
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 12:28 PM
Aug 27

Division in case they are doing this in every state. Republicans were accusing Democrats of doing this in 2020.

hibbing

(10,402 posts)
11. This happened at my mom's retirement home
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 12:31 PM
Aug 27

It was all this anti immigration garbage, I found it on her kitchen table when I went and visited.

Forward!

Botany

(72,473 posts)
13. They have to cheat to win even Texas.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 12:47 PM
Aug 27

Not only bring this up with a FBI agent and or U.S. Attorney take it to the State HQs of the
Dem. Party’s election legal team. If you have pictures of this person and find a way to make
him famous.

CCExile

(524 posts)
17. Scaring Old Folks in Corpus Christi continued...
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 03:29 PM
Aug 30

I am providing all info now, as it appears on this man's publicly available business card, which he provided while introducing himself.

As of Friday, Aug. 30, we know:
Name: Guy Saponari (from business card)
Listed as: Deputy Registrar (He is actually a listed "Volunteer Deputy Registrar&quot
Phone Number: (512)563-3302 (from business card)
Email: guysaponari@gmail.com

The seal on the business card is a Texas star surrounded by two boughs, and around the edge it says "State of Texas" at the top and County of Nueces at the bottom. (we now have the actual card, as opposed to the photocopy)

The bottom of the business card says, in red letters "voter advocacy, security & education"

The back of the card has a URL code labeled "Nieces (sic) Voter Registration Check"

Today my uncle went to the election office and asked to speak to Mr. Saponari or his boss. The clerk said that nobody by that name worked for the county, but there is a volunteer deputy registrar by that name.
Volunteer Deputy Registrars are trained by Nueces County and sworn in. Absolutely NO partisan politics is allowed by these registrars while engaging in voter registration duties.

A Google search turned up a reference in LinkedIn, and the picture matches the man at false voter information event.

I have decided to provide all the information on this man and his "non-partisan" organization since he provided it on hid card.

A clerk at the elections office said that they knew of similar challenges faced at other counties' election offices. This may be a far-ranging strategy of disinformation designed to lay the groundwork for not certifying the votes after the 2024 elections.

The website associated with Mr. Saponari has deleted their links to the initiative of the same name being run by the Republican Party of Texas. Non-partisan, anyone?

LeftInTX

(29,996 posts)
18. We have those up in Bexar County and they're all over the state.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 11:42 PM
Aug 30

Last edited Sat Aug 31, 2024, 03:12 AM - Edit history (1)

We have those harassing Election Integrity yahoos up here in Bexar County and I think they're in just about every county. They're an arm of the Republican Party. They have forced numerous elections administrators in Texas to quit. They specialize in harassment.


They want to hack the voting machines. They are constantly filing FOIA requests. They think they are the smartest guys in the room.

I really don't know what to say about the guy in CC. The entire GOP is pretty much like this. Sen Bob Hall came to San Antonio a few months ago to outline the GOP Texas legislative Election Integrity goals for the next session and it is full of crazy, crazy and more crazy.


OTOH: Lots of Deputy Voter Registrars are partisan!

You just have to agree to register anyone who wants to be registered. Many registration events are non-partisan because that is the only way they can hold the event.

Wish I had an answer. The assisted living facility should have done a better job of screening. He did pull a bait and switch. A better option would be to bring the LWV out. Maybe ask the senior center if they could make other senior centers aware of this guy. Spread the word out. At least the guys up here don't show up under false pretenses. You may even want to contact the Nueces County Republican Party. I don't see him listed as a precinct chair. The party may not have patience for this type of deception. (It's worth a shot. It can't hurt) He made it sound like he was gonna help with vote by mail and the GOP is totally against that.

Is he 77 years old? His picture and college enrollment dates don't imply it.


https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/08/16/bexar-county-elections-official-says-she-and-her-staff-are-under-attack/

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