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Related: About this forumA Utah parent says the Bible contains porn and should be removed from school libraries.
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https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2023/03/22/utah-parent-says-bible-contains/The parent writes that the book should be considered indecent under Utahs new book banning law, after seeing the other titles that have been pulled.
By Courtney Tanner | March 22, 2023, 2:55 p.m. | Updated: March 23, 2023, 11:48 a.m.
Frustrated by the books being removed from school libraries, a Utah parent says theres one that hasnt been challenged yet, but that they believe should be, for being one of the most sex-ridden books around.
So theyve submitted a request for their school district in Davis County to now review the Bible for any inappropriate content.
Incest, onanism, bestiality, prostitution, genital mutilation, fellatio, dildos, rape, and even infanticide, the parent wrote in their request, listing topics they found concerning in the religious text. Youll no doubt find that the Bible, under Utah Code Ann. § 76-10-1227, has no serious values for minors because its pornographic by our new definition.
The code cited is the Utah law passed in 2022 to ban any books containing pornographic or indecent content from Utah schools, both in libraries and in the classroom. It came after outcry from conservative parents groups, who have been pushing to have titles removed.
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hlthe2b
(106,328 posts)Turnabout is fair play.
Ocelot II
(120,813 posts)not fooled
(6,070 posts)that I attended. I had no idea (nor was ever inclined to read the bible cover-to-cover, which would have revealed all).
So, my nice Sunday School teachers slanted the curriculum, huh?
sdfernando
(5,379 posts)by monks and nuns! ..and pay close attention to art and notes in the margins.
MayReasonRule
(1,800 posts)Inside of literary archeological finds, tomes of cultural footnotes of as many stripes as could devour.
This was a product of my personal cultural isolation and genetics perhaps.
My father had garnered a full military scholarship to Texas A&M at the age of 15 in part by reading and studying every book in the libraries of his East Texas home town and that of the surrounding towns as well.
Dallas Public Library and SMU's library's became a personal fascination whenever I would visit my grandparents in Dallas.
When I finally encountered manuscripts of old with such art and notes at the age of around nine I was both astonished and immediately felt the need to press on a column holding up the ceiling, lol.
Oh the times I had...
Yes indeed, pay close attention to arts and notes in the margins!
Laissez bon temps rouler!
Ya' might as well...
Ocelot II
(120,813 posts)"My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door,
and my bowels were moved for him.
I rose up to open to my beloved;
and my hands dropped with myrrh,
and my fingers with sweet smelling myrrh,
upon the handles of the lock."
Blow on my garden, that its fragrance may spread abroad.
Let my lover come into his garden and taste its choice fruits.
When she carried on her whoring so openly and flaunted her nakedness, I turned in disgust from her, as I had turned in disgust from her sister. Yet she increased her whoring, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the whore in the land of Egypt and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses. Thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when the Egyptians handled your bosom and pressed your young breasts.
Pinback
(12,884 posts)Joinfortmill
(16,377 posts)sinkingfeeling
(52,985 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Ocelot II
(120,813 posts)some of it quite inappropriate.
central scrutinizer
(12,441 posts)For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses and whose issue is like the issue of horses.
Delphinus
(12,140 posts)I went to Google and asked for the meaning of that and just ugh.
Maraya1969
(22,997 posts)Delphinus
(12,140 posts)I am quite literal and one of the "bible" sites that I brought up seemed it was real animals. BUT, as I said, I am QUITE literal.
Maraya1969
(22,997 posts)There were no verses that okayed it, but there were so many times they mentioned it that you wonder what these people were doing back then
Layzeebeaver
(1,866 posts)Stay tuned
czarjak
(12,404 posts)Irish_Dem
(57,314 posts)Could warp precious little psyches.
dutch777
(3,456 posts)Oh, how those unintended consequences can come and bite you right in the ....
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)The church bookstore on the other hand is clearly a porn shop.
Joinfortmill
(16,377 posts)TheRickles
(2,401 posts)bucolic_frolic
(46,970 posts)They are inappropriate for humanity
TygrBright
(20,987 posts)DinahMoeHum
(22,488 posts). . .and do it ad infinitum, ad nauseum. . .
. . .and hopefully, the proponents on book bans will sing a different song. . .
jaxexpat
(7,784 posts)The holy word of god can be expected, by definition, to have no self censorship.
Just ask Larry Flint.
aggiesal
(9,465 posts)under the Constitution's 1st Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
(i.e. Religious Freedom)
Which will expose them to how Irony Deficient they are, using the same Amendment for Freedom Of Speech, that they used to band all the other books.
Funny how that always works for them, but not for us.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)That's because they understand that it's all about power, not principle.
aggiesal
(9,465 posts)AdamGG
(1,486 posts)Do they have a copy of the Q'uran in their library? How about the Bhagavad Vita?
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)The Yadzi Black Book
The Holy Piby
Adi Da's writings
Principia Discordia
The Charge Of The Goddess
Odu Ifa
Amritbani Guru Ravidass Ji
The Gospel Of The Prophet Mani
Codex Borgia
Nevi'im, Torah & Ketuvium
Daozang (there are like 20 Taoism books really)
All the Shinto books
All the Zoroastrianism books (there are like 15?)
Maybe 100 Indian Ayyavazhi, Hindu, Ravidiassia and Jainism books?
Three or so primary Sikhism texts
30-ish Bahá'í Faith texts
All the other Islamic texts
All the other Hebrew texts
I haven't even gotten started on the New Age and so-called "New Religious Movement" belief systems except Adi Da (aka Franklin Albert Jones a.k.a. Adi Da Love-Ananda Samraj). And so many African, Native American, South American & Asian smaller or pre-Crusades & Conquistadors religions that still survive to this day.
...and the Christian Bibles - all 20 or 30 or so of them, as they can differ substantially - should be simply added to the mix.
Rhiannon12866
(222,070 posts)I still remember when I was in elementary school they suddenly stopped saying the "school prayer" which followed the Pledge of Allegiance every day. I don't remember all the words, but don't think it was particularly religious, it ended with "our parents, our teachers and our country," that all I recall. But one day we were told it would be replaced by "a prayer to yourself,' a moment of silence, really, which was confusing to us kids. But then that was eliminated too, and nobody really noticed.
AdamGG
(1,486 posts)which was liberal and there definitely weren't any kind of prayers, other than the pledge of allegiance, so it's a bit alien to me. I'm pretty sure there weren't any Bibles in the school.
The right keeps pushing religion into the public sphere, though, and sadly winning. There was a Supreme Court case from a year or two ago where a school district (Washington state maybe) fired a football coach who refused to stop saying Christian prayers with the team on the sidelines. It went to the Supreme Court and the stacked Trump court ruled against the school district and said that they had to pay the coach damages and they couldn't stop him from rallying the team with Christian prayers.
So, the state sponsored school is required to pressure Muslim, Jewish, atheist kids on the team to participate in Christian prayers or risk being ostracized from the team.
Rhiannon12866
(222,070 posts)But I would imagine that if that ruling (I have no idea what prompted it, I was just a kid) was reversed that there would be a lot of pushback today. When I was a kid, most people attended some kind of religious services, but that's definitely not the case today. Where I live now, the Catholic church downtown was shut down and is now a Salvation Army.
usonian
(13,772 posts)Not a book promotion.
Ben Edward Akerley 1999
One reviewer notes:
Passages are neatly arranged by depravity.
You can check it out from the Internet Archive:
https://archive.org/details/xratedbible00bene
Another reviewer mentioned that King James was gay. 🏳️🌈
KJ's Wikipedia Page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_VI_and_I
Ocelot II
(120,813 posts)He just commissioned it. It was written by a panel of 47 translators; James didn't write any of it. So, while he might have been gay, that would have had nothing to do with the Bible translation.
usonian
(13,772 posts)But it has his name on it and most people don't know who the McDonald's were, nor who Telsa was, and they really ought to learn about Henry Ford. (but I digress)
People do judge a book by its cover, and too often, by no more than the cover.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Before around 1100 CE or so, it was okay to be a gay Roman Catholic priest. But in the 30 years prior to that time England and Rome had been feuding over religion and England declared a new tax. It was designed to make Rome's priests more expensive to keep in the country since England's priests would typically marry. So the RCC tried to outlaw gay priests. Anselm, who was in a relationship with his immediate superior in the local church hierarchy, fought it off until his death.
AllyCat
(17,097 posts)WinstonSmith4740
(3,157 posts)The atheists and the folks from the Satanic Temple are going to be the ones who save us from these zealots. And all they have to do is stand by The Constitution.
republianmushroom
(17,612 posts)HardPort
(1,474 posts)If you want your mind blown about how a grifter who lived 200 years ago continues the grift to this day, try D&C 132.
calimary
(84,306 posts)All those generations didnt just magically appear when it was their turn. And it just might also be that every one of those generations from the tracking of Abrahams and Isaacs and other lineages came from WOMEN. Every single one of em came out of a womb. Even the fruit of the so-called Virgin Birth.
Sogo
(5,767 posts)Would love to hear about their reactions.
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)Joinfortmill
(16,377 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,465 posts)wryter2000
(47,431 posts)Who knew? Maybe Ill read my bible, after all.
LiberalFighter
(53,465 posts)Never ever cover everything.
They pretty much cover the same thing every year for the same week.
JPPaverage
(577 posts)Some little thing in the United States Constitution caled "separation of church and state." Yes its pesky, but it's in there.
flashman13
(852 posts)that section included every other religious text from every religion you can possibly think of.
flashman13
(852 posts)kimbutgar
(23,254 posts)keithbvadu2
(40,083 posts)Hassler
(3,676 posts)SunSeeker
(53,649 posts)Wonder Why
(4,589 posts)Oppaloopa
(896 posts)Every time I drive past on Sunday I am still shocked. They park large tractor trailers to use as a billboard to adv their church I have not heard of anyone complaing regarding this. I find this so outrageous.
Seinan Sensei
(697 posts)True Blue American
(18,161 posts)Drunk so they could have sex with him! And do not forget Eve and that evil apple, or was it a snake? I forget.
digsub
(75 posts)"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." (Ezekiel 23:20)