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mahatmakanejeeves

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Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:34 PM Dec 2020

George Mason said in 1788 that a President should not be granted the power to pardon ...

George Mason, delegate to Constitutional Convention, said in 1788 that a President should not be granted power to pardon because he might "pardon crimes which were advised by himself. It may happen, at some future day, that he will establish a monarchy, and destroy the republic."


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George Mason said in 1788 that a President should not be granted the power to pardon ... (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2020 OP
Mason's objection was countered by James Madison... PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #1
You make it sound so simple, Mr. Madison Cirque du So-What Dec 2020 #3
Like THAT could ever happen. dchill Dec 2020 #4
Well, he's going to be gone so no need for impeachment! Tank God. His buds would still not kick napi21 Dec 2020 #2
They also knew that George Washington SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #5

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. Mason's objection was countered by James Madison...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:38 PM
Dec 2020
“There is one security in this case to which gentlemen may not have adverted: if the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and there be grounds to believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; they can remove him if found guilty.”

Which is why no such limitation made it into the final version of the Constitution.

See: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/07/25/the-pardon-power-and-original-intent/

Cirque du So-What

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3. You make it sound so simple, Mr. Madison
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 12:02 AM
Dec 2020

You didn’t count on a corrupt senate overturning the will of the house.

SCantiGOP

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5. They also knew that George Washington
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 12:25 AM
Dec 2020

was going to be President.
If your model is Washington, something like trump couldn’t be imagined.

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