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TexasTowelie

(116,744 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 05:30 AM Dec 2019

Manchin Plans To Halt Senate Action Over Coal Miners' Benefits

West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin pledged Wednesday, Dec. 11, to block all legislation until pensions and health benefits are secured for coal miners.

Manchin said no legislation will pass the Senate until he is assured that coal miners’ benefits will be in the spending bill used to fund the federal government.

The Bipartisan American Miners Act would permanently secure pensions for about 82,000 coal miners who could lose their retirement benefits by sometime next year without congressional action.

In remarks on the Senate floor, Manchin said miners can’t wait another year for congressional action.

Read more: https://www.wvpublic.org/post/manchin-plans-halt-senate-action-over-coal-miners-benefits

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Manchin Plans To Halt Senate Action Over Coal Miners' Benefits (Original Post) TexasTowelie Dec 2019 OP
the coal miners earned those benefits rampartc Dec 2019 #1
When was the last time any corporation paid Superfund tax? beachbumbob Dec 2019 #2
i was going to guess the gingrich congress rampartc Dec 2019 #3
Neither Obama or Clinton did much of anything to get this tax renewed beachbumbob Dec 2019 #5
i'll risk a hide on this one rampartc Dec 2019 #6
Why not a Bill gab13by13 Dec 2019 #4
airline pilots got SOME of their pension, my company went under also so my pension was reduced beachbumbob Dec 2019 #7

rampartc

(5,835 posts)
1. the coal miners earned those benefits
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 06:34 AM
Dec 2019

but they really should be paid by the mine corporations rather than the taxpayers.

this is the greatest fraud at the heart of the national debt : shifting assets to the rich and their corporations, while shifting liabilities to the taxpayers.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. When was the last time any corporation paid Superfund tax?
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 06:58 AM
Dec 2019

1995.


Except when lawsuits get judgements, the taxpayers pay for all the cleanup

rampartc

(5,835 posts)
3. i was going to guess the gingrich congress
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 07:11 AM
Dec 2019

but this stuff is bipartisan and our side, at least, has got to start fighting.

we (new orleans) just cleaned up radioactive waste that had been in a neighborhood for so long no one knew how it got there. not only the clean up, but the lawsuits are on the taxpayers. the profits are long gone.

https://www.fox8live.com/2019/06/28/bins-radioactive-waste-removed-gert-town/

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
5. Neither Obama or Clinton did much of anything to get this tax renewed
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 07:48 AM
Dec 2019

we should not be fooled that money = power and doesn't matter who the politicians are. They are all actors in the big con game.

rampartc

(5,835 posts)
6. i'll risk a hide on this one
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 07:58 AM
Dec 2019

the environment is my biggest issue. as important as climate change is, we still need to protect the environment from other hazards.

it was wrong for Obama to give a pass to BP on their big spill. offshore drilling should have stopped until the companies demonstrated that they knew how to prevent these disasters or to at least clean them up when they happen.

gab13by13

(25,223 posts)
4. Why not a Bill
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 07:23 AM
Dec 2019

that guarantees pensions for all occupations? Why are coal workers privileged over airline pilots?

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
7. airline pilots got SOME of their pension, my company went under also so my pension was reduced
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 09:24 AM
Dec 2019

by more than 50% under the PBGC rules. Its is what it is. Coal miners should not got special treatment. Look at what happen with city of Detroit retirees, look at what happened to teamsters in "multi-state" pension fiasco.

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