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TexasTowelie

(116,758 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:28 AM Mar 2020

Wisconsin has a growing problem with drugged driving

“Drugged driving: One and the same,” intones a Wisconsin Department of Transportation PSA. “Driving on pills kills.”

The penalties — and devastating outcomes — are the same for drugged driving as they are for drunk driving. However convicting a drugged driver is far more complex.

Wisconsin is in most top 10 lists for the worst states for drunk driving, and while some elements that make up that ranking have improved, opioid use and marijuana legalization in surrounding states have heightened concern about a rise in drugged driving in our state.

With alcohol, a breathalyzer test provides evidence of legal intoxication. One of the best ways to secure solid evidence — to show whether the person’s driving was impaired, or not, by drugs at the time they were behind the wheel — is to have a Drug Recognition Expert (DRE)-trained law enforcement officer on the scene.

Read more: https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2020/03/05/wisconsin-has-a-growing-problem-with-drugged-driving/

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Wisconsin has a growing problem with drugged driving (Original Post) TexasTowelie Mar 2020 OP
I have skiied a lot in WI during my younger days and it had at140 Mar 2020 #1
Bad bad idea. ret5hd Mar 2020 #2
Road side drug testing? News rarely offers solutions. SmartVoter22 Mar 2020 #3

at140

(6,131 posts)
1. I have skiied a lot in WI during my younger days and it had
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:34 AM
Mar 2020

more freaking bars than any place I have been to.

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
3. Road side drug testing? News rarely offers solutions.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 09:26 AM
Mar 2020

Solutions are what's needed, not repeating the obvious point that there is a problem.
The UK uses a tongue swipe kit to test for several illegal drugs; cocaine, marijuana and opiates.
The US doesn't use any drug testing standard, and I don't think Wisconsin does this at all?
They take suspects to a hospital for a blood test, which is a very expensive and time consuming process.
"...drug tests are not run if the blood alcohol concentration (BAC) is above 0.1 g/100mL unless there is a Drug Recognition Expert evaluation or a crash. Tests also stop once a restricted controlled substance (cocaine, methamphetamine or delta-9-THC, LSD, PCP, hallucinogens, narcotics, etc.) is detected and that substance is reported. "

A road side drug test is the smartest thing to add to reducing DUI incidents. Training cops for drugs, compared to a test kit, should come only after road side test kits show a high failure rate. But we don't even try this low cost option.

Impaired driving has always existed, since the 1920's federal drug laws were created. Solutions are rarely presented, either from the law enforcement perspective or the suspects behaviors.

There is also a great number of drivers who are 'impaired' with OTC drugs, like antihistamines (drowsy), the many 'maintenance' drugs for cardiac, hormonal and infection control. These legit drugs do reduce awareness and come with warnings on the info provided by pharmacies.

Additionally, technology can easily prevent a car being used if the driver is impaired. Sensors can smell alcohol or aromas, and test skin indicators. The costs are minimal, compared to the average $30,000 new car cost.

With millions of cars and tens of thousands dead every year from DUI, the police seem to be adverse to what tech can provide, over the judgement of the individually trained 'objective' attitude of each police officer.
I would prefer using science to reduce DUI's, as every training-only attempt has not reduced DUI by any significant amount.

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