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Queensland passes law to jail priests for not reporting confessions of child sexual abuse (Original Post) sl8 Sep 2020 OP
Do they also require them to report other confessed crimes, TreasonousBastard Sep 2020 #1
How are preists like doctors and lawyers? Eko Sep 2020 #2
There is probably no primal right to privacy and ones we have.. TreasonousBastard Sep 2020 #3
You see a lawyer for counsel Eko Sep 2020 #4
The law is written and operated by people of many states... TreasonousBastard Sep 2020 #5
Moral and ethical codes do not supersede the law. Eko Sep 2020 #6

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. Do they also require them to report other confessed crimes,
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:30 PM
Sep 2020

like murder?

And will doctors and lawyers also be required to report?

Eko

(8,489 posts)
2. How are preists like doctors and lawyers?
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 03:12 PM
Sep 2020

And most states already require a doctor to report to the authorities any violence related injury.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. There is probably no primal right to privacy and ones we have..
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 07:44 PM
Sep 2020

are dictated legislatively.
(Or, in at one case , by courts)

Anyway, you see your priest for counsel just like you see your lawyer. The rights are limited and were legislated for good reason, so no need to mess with them.

If you can't make the case without the priest, you may not have much of a case anyway.

Eko

(8,489 posts)
4. You see a lawyer for counsel
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 09:12 PM
Sep 2020

for legal reasons, seeing a priest for moral counsel is in no way the same thing. The lawyer is there to represent you in the face of the constitution and our laws, not so with the priest. The case may actually have evidence of wrong doing but the addition of the priests testimony may put it over the edge of guilty. It doesn't need to be that the priest makes the case, they may just add to the preponderance of evidence, enough to convict. Without the priests testimony, it may not be enough.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. The law is written and operated by people of many states...
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:50 PM
Sep 2020

and jurisdictions. Moral an ethical codes are generally considered to supercede them and the law is often as not derived from them.

None of this really has anything to do with any deities, although deities have come in handy for justification.

When you go to a priest to confess, it is not to hide your guilt, it is to explore your guilt. Similar to what therapists and lawyers do.

I suspect this particular provision was due to priestly pedophilia, but it won't have much effect. Lawmakers and prosecutors will laud themselves on taking great steps to solve the problem.

Eko

(8,489 posts)
6. Moral and ethical codes do not supersede the law.
Wed Sep 9, 2020, 12:02 AM
Sep 2020

Have no idea why you would say that. There are countless different moral and ethical codes across our country. None of them supersede the law. That is why we have the law, to bind us no matter our moral and ethical differences. You may explore your guilt with a therapist but you do not do that with a lawyer. Religion does not supersede the law no matter how much some people may want it to.

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