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Violet_Crumble

(36,111 posts)
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 11:47 PM Sep 2022

Hello my Canadian friends! This Aussie has questions...

The most important one first:

1. Do you get a public holiday to mourn the Queen? We do!
2. Was yr parliament suspended? If so, for how long? Here in Australia, it's for 15 days, but in the UK it's only 10 days.
3. Is there a movement for Canada to become a Republic? If so, do you think it'll pick up momentum now the Queen is dead?
4. I read a recent thread talking about how the Queen suspended parliament at the request of a RW PM. I'm not sure how familiar any of you are with what happened here in 1975, where the Governor General sacked the government . The Queen was dragged into that, and about a decade later, the Australia Act came into being, which meant nothing like that could ever happen again . In a nutshell, it's an 'Act to bring constitutional arrangements affecting the Commonwealth and the States into conformity with the status of the Commonwealth of Australia as a sovereign, independent and federal nation'. You guys don't have something similar??

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Hello my Canadian friends! This Aussie has questions... (Original Post) Violet_Crumble Sep 2022 OP
Let's see.... SergeStorms Sep 2022 #1
G'Day! Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #2
Hey there! Spazito Sep 2022 #3

SergeStorms

(19,278 posts)
1. Let's see....
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 02:00 AM
Sep 2022

If I'm correct it's about 5:00 in the afternoon in Australia right now ( earlier or later depending on your time zone).

It's about 3: 00 am here in New York, earlier in time zones to the west

You're asking your questions at the wrong time of day, here at least. The only people awake are we insomniacs, and even I'm starting to feel somewhat tired.

I don't know if you'll find any Canadians awake right now, but maybe you'll find a few checking in s few hours from now.

Good luck, and G'day, mate. 🦘

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,769 posts)
2. G'Day!
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 05:06 AM
Sep 2022

1. Not as far as I know.

Canadian holiday for Queen's funeral still unclear | CTV News
https://www.ctvnews.ca › politics › will-canada-have-a-nat...
12 hours ago — With Queen Elizabeth II's funeral set to take place Monday, the Canadian federal government has yet to confirm whether it will follow the ...

Should Canadians get a paid day off for the Queen's funeral?
https://bc.ctvnews.ca › should-canadians-get-a-paid-day-o...

8 hours ago — On Monday, Sept. 19, the day Queen Elizabeth II will be laid to rest, most Canadians will be at work or school.

Queen's funeral could mark national holiday in Canada
https://toronto.citynews.ca › 2022/09/12 › queen-holida...
21 hours ago — Canada announced its plans for a major memorial next Monday, the day of the funeral, with a commemorative ceremony, a military parade, and gun ...

I searched "queen death holiday canada" (no quotes).

2. Parliament was scheduled to begin Monday 19th, but that is the day of the funeral. So there will be speeches and tributes in Parliament that day and the real back-and-forth shouting and jeering will begin Tuesday.

3. Yes. I endorse getting rid of the useless monarchy (except for tourism)but I don't do anything about it. I'm not sure a Republic is the best idea (a la Americano en Los Estados Unidos), but I'm haven't give it much thought.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada#Debate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchism_in_Canada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicanism_in_Canada
In Canada, monarchism, though it is sometimes mocked by its opponents,[10] is driven by various factors: monarchists support the perceived practicality of popular power being ultimately placed in the hands of a non-partisan, apolitical individual, and see the Canadian monarchy as a modern link, via the Crown's shared nature, to ethnically and historically similar countries around the world.[6] It is also celebrated by monarchists as being a significant element of Canada's national identity,[11] stemming from the organization's 500-year deep roots in the country's tradition,[12] as well as having a pivotal role in maintaining Canada's independence from the United States.[13] Though a majority of polled individuals agree that the monarchy has a role as a Canadian identifier, as with its political counterpart, strong monarchism is not a prevalent element of contemporary Canadian society; according to surveys, the population is generally unaware of the existence of a monarch as their head of state.[14] Andrew Coyne commented on monarchism: "In most countries loyalty to the head of state—that is, to the existing constitutional order—is the first duty of citizens. Here [in Canada] it is a kind of rebellion, the obsession of a radical fringe group dismissively referred to as 'monarchists'."[8]


4.
In 2002, Governor General Adrienne Clarkson accepted Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's advice to prorogue parliament, allowing Chrétien to avoid tabling a report to the House of Commons public accounts committee regarding the sponsorship scandal that surrounded Chrétien's party at the time.[7] After parliament was again summoned, investigations into the scandal continued, Chrétien stepped down as Prime Minister in December of the following year, and the Liberal party was reduced to a minority government in the subsequent election.

A prorogation of parliament took place on December 4, 2008, when Prime Minister Stephen Harper advised Governor General Michaëlle Jean to do so after the opposition Liberal and New Democratic parties formed a coalition with the support of the Bloc Québécois party and threatened to vote non-confidence in the sitting minority government, precipitating a parliamentary dispute. The Governor General, however, did not grant her prime minister's request until after two hours of consultation with various constitutional experts. Upon the end of her tenure as vicereine, Jean revealed to the Canadian Press that the delay was partly to "send a message—and for people to understand that this warranted reflection".[8][9] It was also at the same time said by Peter H. Russell, one of those from whom Jean sought advice, that Canadians ought not regard as an automatic rubber stamp the Governor General's decision to accept Harper's advice concerning prorogation; Russell disclosed that Jean granted the prorogation on two conditions: parliament would reconvene soon and, when it did, the Cabinet would present a proposed budget, a vote on which is a confidence matter.[2] This, Russell said, set a precedent that would prevent future prime ministers from advising the prorogation of parliament "for any length of time for any reason".[10][11] Nelson Wiseman, a political science professor at the University of Toronto, wrote of Harper that "no Prime Minister has so abused the power to prorogue".[12]

Harper again advised the Governor General to prorogue parliament on December 30, 2009. The Prime Minister stated that this was to keep parliament in recess for the duration of the XXI Olympic Winter Games to be held in Vancouver, British Columbia, in February 2010. The move, however, was suspected by opposition Members of Parliament to be a way for Harper to avoid ongoing investigations into the Afghan detainees affair.

On August 18, 2020, Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau asked Governor General Julie Payette to prorogue parliament until September 23 amid the aftermath of the WE Charity scandal.[15]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prorogation_in_Canada

Spazito

(53,887 posts)
3. Hey there!
Tue Sep 13, 2022, 08:42 AM
Sep 2022

Last edited Tue Sep 13, 2022, 11:55 AM - Edit history (1)

1. Whether we will get a national holiday declared for September 19th or not is still under discussion but only for federally regulated industries. If it does happen it will only be government workers that will get that will get the day off, the rest of Canadians would only get that time off if the Provinces declare it a holiday as well.

2. I haven't seen anything saying Parliament was being suspended yet.

3. There really isn't any substantive movement to separate Canada from the Monarchy as the majority of Canadians are okay remaining within the Commonwealth, according to the last poll which was taken before the Queen's death. There has always been a small rump group wanting to pull us out and they may start making noises again now that Charles is King.

4. Yes, Stephen Harper asked the Governor General to prorogue Parliament in 2008, just shortly after the federal election where his party didn't win enough seats to become a majority government and the other main parties, the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc, had agreed to vote together against the Conservative budget and bring down the Conservative government. The Governor General agreed to prorogue Parliament until January 2009. Her decision was certainly controversial but nothing was changed wrt the GG because of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932009_Canadian_parliamentary_dispute

Edited to add: We are to have a federal holiday on September 19, the federal government is working with the Provinces on the details, etc.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/queen-funeral-national-holiday-or-not-1.6580582



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