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Related: About this forumThank god he didn't have a gun. I wonder what the story is there.
Jayme Pasieka, Edmonton warehouse stabbing suspect, capturedhttp://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/jayme-pasieka-edmonton-warehouse-stabbing-suspect-captured-1.2555762
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A suspect has been captured three hours after a stabbing attack at a grocery warehouse in northwest Edmonton that killed two people and wounded four others.
"A very vigilant citizen noticed the vehicle with somebody matching the description of the suspect inside it," said Edmonton police acting Insp. Malcolm Allan. "Our tactical team just now took the individual into custody and confirmed that it is the same person.
The suspect, Jayme Pasieka, 29, was arrested in a takedown at 74th Avenue and 39th Street in southeast Edmonton.
The attack happened at the Loblaw, or Western Grocers, warehouse at 16104 121A Ave. just after 2 p.m. MT.
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proudretiredvet
(312 posts)People actually do kill people. Guns are used more than half the time but still many people die violently every year when guns are not involved.
applegrove
(121,537 posts)didn't have a gun. I'm curious as to whether his previous conviction for violent crime kept guns out of his hands. Don't you think it would be good to know that? Because he had protective gear, he planned this. Yet the loss of life was not so great.
proudretiredvet
(312 posts)But not what you know. Even in shooting incidents the criminal killers often walk out and do not kill everyone they can.
I know it sounds good but you can not support it.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)stabbing someone to death requires a shitload of time and energy. It happened in a HUGE warehouse with 100 or so workers. People had time to get away when they saw he had a knife. If he had a gun, it's likely and probable that more people would've died. You can pretend that there's a possibility that if he had a gun he'd have stopped at 2...but most people with a smidgen of common sense know that more probably would've died with a gun and statistics confirm this. This is a story of what good gun laws do right, even if you deny it in the face of evidence.
proudretiredvet
(312 posts)It takes a very little amount of time to inflict a terminal wound with a knife. Ask any one of the tens of thousands of Rangers/Special Forces/Marine recon trained people. But the story here is still that you do not have to have a gun to kill people. Death did happen without a gun being present. That is a fact.
I don't pretend to know anything in what I said it is you who are pretending to know everything that would have happened if he had used a gun. Your statement is totally supposition to support what you believe. You can not "know" any of this.
Please supply us with the make and model of your crystal ball.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)proudretiredvet
(312 posts)But the most strict firearms laws in the world kept all these people alive, until it didn't.
And since there were no guns in the hands of the bad guys no one died, until they did.
And because there was no gun involved only a couple people died, until many fell down dead.
Yes as you can see you are right. Guns always mean more death and the lack of guns always means that there is no death or very little death. Until the next time that is not true.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Statistically it means less deaths though. That doesn't mean every.single.time. you will have less deaths with no guns than with guns...it means statistically, there will be less deaths if a gun isn't used. Statistically. If you keep making this posts it'll be clear to me you don't understand statistics at all. But keep posting. Says more about you than me.