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delrem

(9,688 posts) Tue May 26, 2015, 10:11 PM May 2015

(Canada group) Where does the federal Liberal party stand on the TPP?

I'm a "strategic voter" in that I'll vote for the NDP candidate if the candidate is good and honest, but will vote for a Liberal candidate if I think that's the only way to beat the Conservatives. Also, I don't have unkind thoughts about the Liberal party, except for the BC provincial Liberals, who are just a bought out husk.

I am decidedly "left", but I'm an entrepreneur in the arts, self-employed, and not a member of a union.

Here's why I think the federal Liberal party is "to the left", generally speaking:
It's because they, and with the help of the NDP in minority gov'ts, have delivered a certain goodness that I identify with Canada. In contrast, the NDP has a rather hard time dealing with the Conservative/Reform factions. I can't think of much they have done that I like. Harper blew it in one term, but Canada once had a reputation for peace. Give Harper another couple terms and we can say goodbye to everything. The generations after won't even know us.

The TPP is insidious because it is hidden. It isn't discussed, it isn't an issue, even though it's a bigger issue than NAFTA was.

Shouldn't this be a topic in this election?

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(Canada group) Where does the federal Liberal party stand on the TPP? (Original Post) delrem May 2015 OP

It appears all three parties are supporting signing on to the TPP... Spazito May 2015 #1

As per the Coucil of Canadians, Joe Shlabotnik May 2015 #2

Spazito

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1. It appears all three parties are supporting signing on to the TPP...

Reply to delrem (Original post)

Wed May 27, 2015, 09:39 AM

May 2015

so, basing one's vote on the issue of the TPP, imo, is a non-starter. Here's a link to an article that explains the various party's position. It's from the National Post (ugh) but it does provide some good info re party positions.

"The Conservatives, Liberals and New Democratic Party are aligned for once: they all want Canada to sign up for what business groups have called the “historic opportunity” to access almost 800 million new customers in Asia and Latin America, as part of the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal.

They are also agreed about the need to preserve the supply management system that protects Canada’s dairy, egg and poultry industries from foreign competition, even though the U.S. government’s chief agricultural negotiator told the National Post last week that dismantling supply management is the price of admission to TPP."

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/john-ivison-supply-management-must-go-if-canada-is-to-be-a-player-in-massive-trans-pacific-trade-deal

A bit of an aside; The Liberal party of B.C. was never a Liberal party, it was a moderately conservative party under Wilson and when he lost his leadership position due to scandal, the moribund Social Credit/Conservative supporters took it over and elected Gordon Campbell.

It is totally misleading for them to continue under the banner of the Liberal Party of B.C., imo, but lying is their specialty so there is that.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)

2. As per the Coucil of Canadians,

Reply to delrem (Original post)

Wed May 27, 2015, 08:29 PM

May 2015

the NDP and Green party are pushing for full public disclosure and proper debate.

We, the undersigned legislators from countries involved in the negotiation of the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, call on the Parties to the negotiation to publish the draft text of the Agreement before any final agreement is signed with sufficient time to enable effective legislative scrutiny and public debate

http://canadians.org/tpp

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