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Related: About this forumJermaine Carby was killed while officer was trying to card him
From the Toronto Star:
https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/05/12/peel-cop-sought-to-card-jermaine-carby-before-slaying-inquest-hears.html
From the article:
The Peel Regional Police officer who asked Jermaine Carby for his identification minutes before the Brampton man was shot dead by police wanted Carbys name and date of birth because he was carding him, a coroners inquest heard Thursday.
During lengthy and sometimes tense questioning by Faisal Mirza, the lawyer representing Carbys family, Const. Jason Senechal admitted he had no investigative reason to ask Carby for his personal information.
Passengers in a car stopped for a traffic infraction this vehicle's licence plate was said to be obscured and its headlights were out are not required to provide personal information to police. Under questioning, Senechal agreed he was not seeking a suspect who fit Carbys description, and had no reason to believe the car he was in was connected to a crime. The street check was a dominant reason why he asked for Carbys information, Senechal said.
When asked by Mirza if he read or watched the news, Senechal said: Honestly, no. I watch sports highlights.
Ongoing carding investigations by Star since 2010 have shown that, in Toronto, the practice disproportionately affects black and brown men. According to six years of data obtained by the Star last year, black people in Brampton were three times more likely to be street checked by Peel police than white people.
Asked by Mirza if he personally lived in Peel region, Senechal declined to say, agreeing he felt some discomfort disclosing that information.
So, you can understand why, when you asked an African-Canadian passenger in a vehicle for their name and their date of birth, while they are sitting there quietly, it might be offensive to them?
After a long pause, Senechal replied that he could.
During lengthy and sometimes tense questioning by Faisal Mirza, the lawyer representing Carbys family, Const. Jason Senechal admitted he had no investigative reason to ask Carby for his personal information.
Passengers in a car stopped for a traffic infraction this vehicle's licence plate was said to be obscured and its headlights were out are not required to provide personal information to police. Under questioning, Senechal agreed he was not seeking a suspect who fit Carbys description, and had no reason to believe the car he was in was connected to a crime. The street check was a dominant reason why he asked for Carbys information, Senechal said.
When asked by Mirza if he read or watched the news, Senechal said: Honestly, no. I watch sports highlights.
Ongoing carding investigations by Star since 2010 have shown that, in Toronto, the practice disproportionately affects black and brown men. According to six years of data obtained by the Star last year, black people in Brampton were three times more likely to be street checked by Peel police than white people.
Asked by Mirza if he personally lived in Peel region, Senechal declined to say, agreeing he felt some discomfort disclosing that information.
So, you can understand why, when you asked an African-Canadian passenger in a vehicle for their name and their date of birth, while they are sitting there quietly, it might be offensive to them?
After a long pause, Senechal replied that he could.
So, the officer had no reason to card Carby, and admitted that it was for no investigative purpose. The officer also had a clear and huge lack of awareness about the controversy surrounding carding in southern Ontario. But no one could ever have predicted that someone who up until then had been cooperative and compliant would suddenly become combative...
Senechal was also questioned about his response to health information displayed on the in-car computer when Senechal ran Carbys name.
The computer showed Carby, 33, suffered from mental instability and had suicidal tendencies the record would have been displayed on Senechals screen reading ***Mental Health***.
Subject attempted to disarm officer. Threatened suicide, wanted police to shoot him, the record said, referring to an incident between Carby and Toronto police just one month before his death, which resulted in Carby being hospitalized.
Jurors heard Senechal returned to speak to Carby roughly 30 seconds after seeing Carbys mental health history on his in-car screen. By then, two backup officers, including Vasquez, had arrived on scene.
Since there was no urgency to speak to Carby who was still compliant and calm in the car Mirza asked Senechal why he didnt make a plan with his colleagues, considering the high risk Carby posed to himself and others.
You didnt sit and take five minutes to discuss with them the plan of approach in relation to Mr. Carby, correct?
No, I did not, Senechal said.
The computer showed Carby, 33, suffered from mental instability and had suicidal tendencies the record would have been displayed on Senechals screen reading ***Mental Health***.
Subject attempted to disarm officer. Threatened suicide, wanted police to shoot him, the record said, referring to an incident between Carby and Toronto police just one month before his death, which resulted in Carby being hospitalized.
Jurors heard Senechal returned to speak to Carby roughly 30 seconds after seeing Carbys mental health history on his in-car screen. By then, two backup officers, including Vasquez, had arrived on scene.
Since there was no urgency to speak to Carby who was still compliant and calm in the car Mirza asked Senechal why he didnt make a plan with his colleagues, considering the high risk Carby posed to himself and others.
You didnt sit and take five minutes to discuss with them the plan of approach in relation to Mr. Carby, correct?
No, I did not, Senechal said.
Oh, wait. Yes, he had that information at his fingertips. He was provided that information when he searched for Carby's name for "no investigative reason."
Anyone believing that Canada is some post-racial society is kidding themselves.
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Jermaine Carby was killed while officer was trying to card him (Original Post)
Saviolo
May 2016
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Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)1. Another belief destroyed!
Humans a disgusting group of creatures!
WhiteTara
(30,168 posts)2. Racism and sexism are alive and well
all over the world. I am in despair that it will never change.