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Saviolo

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Wed Nov 8, 2017, 02:54 PM Nov 2017

'Hate-sponsored rallies' should be prohibited in Toronto, councillor says

From CTV News: http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/hate-sponsored-rallies-should-be-prohibited-in-toronto-councillor-says-1.3667381

One city councillor wants to know what the city can do to prohibit "hate-sponsored rallies" from taking place in Toronto.

In an administrative inquiry at a council meeting that starts today, Ward 10 Coun. James Pasternak is asking the deputy city manager to look into what can be done to prohibit white supremacist or neo-Nazi rallies and other demonstrations that incite hatred and violence on City or provincial property.

“Do the Toronto Police Service or City of Toronto have ability and what resources could they utilize to prohibit a rally that is inciting hatred and violence?” Pasternak’s submission read.

The question comes a little more than two weeks after far-right demonstrators squared off with counter-protesters at Nathan Phillips Square.

Speaking to CP24 on Tuesday, Pasternak said he understands free speech and the right to gather are “sacred” rights.

“We also have to respect the rights of targeted groups and respect their right to freedom and liberty,” he said.

Pasternak said the while the city already has a “very robust” anti-discrimination policy, which people must sign before they can hold an event on city property, city officials should be able to do more on the enforcement front.

“We think we should have the power to issue trespass orders, to fine for extra police services, maybe freeze bank accounts. We need those powers to make sure that hate can’t grow within our society.”


Nazis and white supremacists are not part of a robust national dialogue. We've seen where that leads, and it's not good. They can assemble all they want, but if they're spewing their vile hate-filled "philosophy" in public, then they should face the consequences of that spewing. They are not there to take part in a robust debate of good will, they are there to proclaim their superiority over others while at the same time claiming victimization by society for their beliefs. Nazis are 100% incompatible with a free, just, open, equal, and fair society.
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'Hate-sponsored rallies' should be prohibited in Toronto, councillor says (Original Post) Saviolo Nov 2017 OP
Also in Toronto news today: The white supremacists behind alt-right posters around the city Saviolo Nov 2017 #1
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Saviolo

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1. Also in Toronto news today: The white supremacists behind alt-right posters around the city
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 03:02 PM
Nov 2017

From Torontoist: https://torontoist.com/2017/11/revealed-white-supremacists-behind-alt-right-posters-around-city/

Last night, two groups of white supremacists were caught on camera putting up “It’s Okay To Be White” posters up around the University of Toronto campus.

When they realized they were being photographed, Winston Smith yelled at the photographer “Faggot!” and “Fucking commie scum.” The photographer tells Torontoist that most of the group quickly covered up their faces and that later they yelled “Bitch” and “Cunt” at another woman who was present.

The posters, reading “It’s okay to be white” in large, sans-serif font are part of a 4chan campaign to “expose the media’s anti-white bias through their reaction to a harmless flyer.” In the 4chan thread, one user posts that “the idea is to hide your fucking powerlevel and insist that it’s just an innocent ‘it’s okay to be white.’ If people start being Nazis and supporting the posters, then liberals can just dismiss it all with dogwhistles and moderates won’t be convinced.”

Here, the user is referring to a strategy the alt-right have adopted after the events of Charlottesville, when it became widely accepted that the alt-right is a racist and white supremacist movement.

‘Hiding your powerlevel’ refers to a strategy of publicly disavowing Nazis and “keep[ing] the long-term goals covert . . . Talking openly about a white ethnostate only leads to failure and the average public turning against you, so disavow anyone who reveals his power level. Leftists will recognize dog whistles and know we’re crypto, but normies won’t listen to them.”

In short, the purpose of these posters is to publish a message that’s hard to disagree with – that it’s okay to be white – and paint any opposition to the message as an example of media bias against white people.

Smith, Huxtable, and their crew will say they aren’t Nazis. Huxtable says that white supremacists and neo-Nazis don’t exist. He identifies himself as an “ethno-nationalist” and a “race realist.” Earlier this month, Huxtable posted “(((you))) [Jews] will. Not. replace. Us.!!!!!!!!” in the Students for Free Discourse Facebook page. That’s what the white supremacists chanted in Charlottesville, marching past a synagogue, carrying tiki torches. In one post, Smith says: “Generation Zyklon will save us do not worry.” Zyklon B is a pesticide that was used in gas chambers during the Holocaust.


They can call themselves whatever they want. They are white supremacists and nazis. And they can go fall down a very deep hole as soon as possible, please.
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