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Soph0571

(9,685 posts) Thu May 21, 2020, 05:33 AM May 2020

Our government has officially drunk the Trump Kool Aid

Today in the Daily Mail this headline... Up to 10,000 NHS health workers will get hydroxychloroquine in trial to see if it stops them catching coronavirus after Donald Trump announced he was taking the anti-malaria drug to protect himself.

Are you fucking kidding me? There is no evidence that this works. Trials had to be stopped in America because it was killing more people than Covid. Side effects can be really nasty. People who need this to live, are struggling to get it but our government is so keen to keep the wanker in chief happy, cause trade and right wing nasty, that they will spend our tax money on this pointless bollocks. How the fuck did we get here? Where the bloody hell has the gravitas gone?

Rant over

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Our government has officially drunk the Trump Kool Aid (Original Post) Soph0571 May 2020 OP

It's crazy. What if Trump declares the world to be flat? Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #1

What if President Trump puts beans up his nose? raging moderate May 2020 #2

lol. my kid did this. mopinko May 2020 #4

That's his preferred method of taking hydroxychloroquine. Xipe Totec May 2020 #12

I'm pretty sure you have to agree gab13by13 May 2020 #3

When I was away at school, my mother would send me newspaper clippings from home Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #5

I started a malaria drug prophylactically for a trip to Vietnam. dhol82 May 2020 #7

Exactly. It obviously has very serious effects. Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #9

There is no doubt about it... dubyadiprecession May 2020 #15

You can see what is coming Chainfire May 2020 #6

There will be "studies" alright and they'll start with "A lot of people are saying.........." KS Toronado May 2020 #16

Not to worry jdanield May 2020 #8

Unbelievable. SergeStorms May 2020 #10

Again, another lie. kacekwl May 2020 #11

Tag Me In Roy Rolling May 2020 #13

Not surprised. ananda May 2020 #14

My sister's doctor wanted to put her on this med onlyadream May 2020 #17

Yes, and there are some who have wanted to put Statin drugs in the water supply... panfluteman May 2020 #18

This is an Oxford University project, not the goverment muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #19

British regulator says 'COPCOV' hydroxychloroquine trial paused muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #20

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,058 posts)

1. It's crazy. What if Trump declares the world to be flat?

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 05:40 AM

May 2020

Will NASA need to put together a team to investigate it?

raging moderate

(4,510 posts)

2. What if President Trump puts beans up his nose?

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 06:02 AM

May 2020

How many minions will have to mimic him then?

mopinko

(71,909 posts)

4. lol. my kid did this.

Reply to raging moderate (Reply #2)

Thu May 21, 2020, 06:45 AM

May 2020

please proceed hitler.

Xipe Totec

(44,086 posts)

12. That's his preferred method of taking hydroxychloroquine.

Reply to raging moderate (Reply #2)

Thu May 21, 2020, 07:39 AM

May 2020

Crushed and snorted with an aderal chaser.

gab13by13

(25,300 posts)

3. I'm pretty sure you have to agree

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 06:11 AM

May 2020

to be part of a trial. If people are stupid enough to volunteer who can stop them?

Rhiannon12866

(223,339 posts)

5. When I was away at school, my mother would send me newspaper clippings from home

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 06:56 AM

May 2020

And I remember one tragic story about a girl I had known in elementary school. She apparently got into a fight with her boyfriend who had been stationed overseas. She locked herself in the bathroom and took an anti-malaria drug that she found in his things - and she died. I don't remember what it was, and it wouldn't have meant anything to me at the time, but the main use of hydroxychloroquine is to treat acute malaria.

dhol82

(9,457 posts)

7. I started a malaria drug prophylactically for a trip to Vietnam.

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #5)

Thu May 21, 2020, 07:06 AM

May 2020

It made me so sick that I had to stop after a day. I was healthy before and it took several days for me to get back to normal.
It is not a drug to play around with.

Rhiannon12866

(223,339 posts)

9. Exactly. It obviously has very serious effects.

Reply to dhol82 (Reply #7)

Thu May 21, 2020, 07:10 AM

May 2020

I don't believe that Trump is taking it and it's criminal for him to advise anyone else to "try it!"

dubyadiprecession

(6,416 posts)

15. There is no doubt about it...

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #9)

Thu May 21, 2020, 08:02 AM

May 2020

Trump is lying about taking the drug, because he so desperately needs, to look right on something.

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)

6. You can see what is coming

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 07:04 AM

May 2020

There will be "studies" that prove that the President was right all the time, and if we had only listened to him, there would not have been a hundred thousand dead. He was the only man in the world that got it right.......

KS Toronado

(19,632 posts)

16. There will be "studies" alright and they'll start with "A lot of people are saying.........."

Reply to Chainfire (Reply #6)

Thu May 21, 2020, 08:06 AM

May 2020

Know anyone who talks like that?

jdanield

(16 posts)

8. Not to worry

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 07:06 AM

May 2020

1. dude - it's The Daily Mail for christ sake
2. for future use in discussions...Wisconsin Woman Who Took Hydroxychloroquine for Nearly 2 Decades Contracts Coronavirus: 'How Can I Be Sick?' https://www.newsweek.com/wisconsin-woman-who-took-hydroxychloroquine-nearly-2-decades-contracts-coronavirus-how-can-i-1505575

SergeStorms

(19,312 posts)

10. Unbelievable.

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 07:18 AM

May 2020

Believing anything Donald Trump says is hazardous to your health. If Donald Trump said, "Good morning", I'd get ready for bed.

kacekwl

(7,587 posts)

11. Again, another lie.

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 07:20 AM

May 2020

Show me proof because no way 10 000 healthy adults are going to do this by choice. No way.

Roy Rolling

(7,189 posts)

13. Tag Me In

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 07:40 AM

May 2020

I’ll pick it up, it’s early and I have the energy.

Read the article today about Trump refusing to read, and this quote in Mattis‘s book (written by him or his ghostwriter)

In his book Call Sign Chaos, former Secretary of Defense James Mattis writes, "If you haven't read hundreds of books, you are functionally illiterate, and you will be incompetent, because your personal experiences alone aren't broad enough to sustain you."

Reading is hearing, reading is submitting, reading is giving an author my time—the most personal thing I have. Reading is serving.

Our idiot president can’t read, he can’t serve. He’s disqualified from a job in public service as an elected official.

ananda

(30,879 posts)

14. Not surprised.

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 07:46 AM

May 2020

I think we all knew that Trump's pretending to take it
was a publicity/extortion move for profiteering.

onlyadream

(2,221 posts)

17. My sister's doctor wanted to put her on this med

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 08:30 AM

May 2020

For lupus but it can adversely affect eyesight so she declined.
How stupid to take this for no real good reason.

panfluteman

(2,168 posts)

18. Yes, and there are some who have wanted to put Statin drugs in the water supply...

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 08:41 AM

May 2020

Oops - I might give the Trump administration ideas...

muriel_volestrangler

(102,618 posts)

19. This is an Oxford University project, not the goverment

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 11:06 AM

May 2020

Led by the University of Oxford and Wellcome supported Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit (MORU) in Bangkok, Thailand, the COPCOV study is a double-blind, randomised, placebo-controlled trial that will enrol 40,000+ frontline healthcare workers and staff from Europe, Africa, Asia and South America who have close contact with patients with COVID-19 to determine definitively if chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are effective in preventing COVID-19.

“COVID-19 is a major risk for frontline healthcare workers around the world,” said COPCOV Co-Principal Investigator Professor Sir Nicholas White, of the University of Oxford who is based at MORU.

“We really do not know if chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine are beneficial or harmful against COVID-19. The best way to find out if they are effective in preventing COVID-19 is in a randomised clinical trial. That’s what COPCOV is – and why we’re doing this study,” said Prof White.
...
Enrolment of the first UK participants in COPCOV is beginning today at the Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals and the John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford. The COPCOV UK sites are being managed by the Diabetes Trials Unit, University of Oxford, https://copcov.org. An additional four sites are expected to open by the end of May, towards a total of 25 COPCOV sites in the UK, by the end of June. Plans are well underway for new COPCOV study sites in Thailand and Southeast Asia, Italy, Portugal, Africa and South America. Results are expected by the end of this year (2020).

https://www.tropicalmedicine.ox.ac.uk/news/copcov-begins-to-test-in-uk-if-chloroquine-and-hydroxychloroquine-prevent-covid-19

muriel_volestrangler

(102,618 posts)

20. British regulator says 'COPCOV' hydroxychloroquine trial paused

Reply to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed May 27, 2020, 11:01 AM

May 2020

On Monday, the World Health Organization (WHO) paused a large trial of the malaria drug on COVID-19 patients due to safety concerns. British medical journal The Lancet has reported that patients getting hydroxychloroquine had increased death rates.

“The COPCOV trial, led by the University of Oxford and Wellcome-supported MORU in Bangkok, has been paused,” the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said in a statement about the trial, which started last Thursday.

“All hydroxychloroquine trials in COVID-19 remain under close review,” it added.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-hydroxychl/british-regulator-says-copcov-hydroxychloroquine-trial-paused-idUKKBN2332HS

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